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DRAFT Minutes of the August 7, 2003 IESG Teleconference



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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 7, 2003 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
Steve Bellovin / AT&T
Michelle Cotton / ICANN
Bill Fenner / AT&T
Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
Thomas Narten / IBM
Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
Natalia Syracuse / IETF Secretariat
Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
Margaret Wasserman / Integrated Systems
Bert Wijnen / Lucent
Alex Zinin / Alcatel

REGRETS
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Rob Austein / IAB Liaison
Marcia Beaulieu / IETF Secretariat
Randy Bush / IIJ
Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
Jacqueline Hargest / IETF Secretariat
Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the July 10, 2003 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Review of Action Items

DONE:

o Bert Wijnen to document process of how the IESG goes about asking
architectural questions of the IAB.
o Ted Hardie to send the Secretariat a message to forward to the RFC
Editor indicating that the Do Not Publish note that was originally
created for draft-paskin-doi-uri-03.txt also applies to
draft-paskin-doi-uri-04.txt.

DELETED:

NONE

IN PROGRESS:

o Allison Mankin to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs
and send decision to IESG.
o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to
get to Draft."
o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
with IAB.
o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
o Randy Bush and Ned Freed to finish ID on Clarifying when Standards
Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents at a Lower Level.
o Alex Zinin to send proposal and justification for interim document
review.
o Steve Bellovin to propose a different document classification than
the current info/proposed/etc.
o Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorates
and IAB on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed
IESG consensus regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN
working group.

NEW:

o Harald Alvestrand to send text of Tony Hain appeal to the IETF
Secretariat. The Secretariat will post the appeal on the "Appeals
submitted to the IESG" Web page.
o Bert Wijnen will send the document on how the IESG goes about asking
architectural questions of the IAB to the Secretariat. The Secretariat
will post the document on the IETF Web site, and will create a link to
the document on the internal IESG Web page.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item

o draft-ietf-pkix-wlan-extns-04.txt - 1 of 9
Certificate Extensions and Attributes Supporting Authentication in PPP
and Wireless LAN (Proposed Standard)
Token: Steve Bellovin

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ted Hardie.*

o Set of five documents - 2 of 9
- draft-ietf-impp-im-03.txt
Common Profile for Instant Messaging (CPIM) (Proposed Standard)
- draft-ietf-impp-cpim-msgfmt-08.txt
Common Presence and Instant Messaging: Message Format (Proposed
Standard)
- draft-ietf-impp-cpim-pidf-08.txt
Presence Information Data Format (PIDF) (Proposed Standard)
- draft-ietf-impp-pres-03.txt
Common Profile for Presence (CPP) (Proposed Standard)
- draft-ietf-impp-srv-03.txt
Address Resolution for Instant Messaging and Presence (Proposed
Standard)
Token: Ted Hardie

The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Bill Fenner and Thomas Narten.*

o draft-ietf-dhc-isnsoption-08.txt - 3 of 9
The IPv4 DHCP Options for the Internet Storage Name Service
(Proposed Standard)
Token: Thomas Narten

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin and Alex Zinin.*

o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-prefix-delegation-04.txt - 4 of 9
IPv6 Prefix Options for DHCPv6 (Proposed Standard)
Token: Thomas Narten

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Thomas Narten.*

o draft-ietf-secsh-dns-04.txt - 5 of 9
Using DNS to securely publish SSH key fingerprints (Proposed Standard)
Token: Russ Housley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Randy Bush and Thomas Narten.*

o draft-ietf-ipsec-ciph-aes-ctr-05.txt- 6 of 9
Using AES Counter Mode With IPsec ESP (Proposed Standard)
Token: Steve Bellovin

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

o draft-ietf-smime-camellia-04.txt - 7 of 9
Use of the Camellia Encryption Algorithm in CMS (Proposed Standard)
Token: Russ Housley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Bert Wijnen.*

o draft-ietf-ipv6-flow-label-07.txt - 8 of 9
IPv6 Flow Label Specification (Proposed Standard)
Token: Thomas Narten

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jon Peterson and Alex Zinin.*

o draft-schryver-pppext-iana-01.txt - 9 of 9
IANA Considerations for the Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) (BCP)
Token: Thomas Narten

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.1.2 Returning Item

o draft-ietf-policy-qos-device-info-model-10.txt - 1 of 4
Information Model for Describing Network Device QoS Datapath Mechanisms
(Proposed Standard)
Token: Bert Wijnen

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Allison Mankin.*

o draft-ietf-policy-qos-info-model-05.txt - 2 of 4
Policy QoS Information Model (Proposed Standard)
Token: Bert Wijnen

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley.*

o draft-ietf-kink-kink-05.txt - 3 of 4
Kerberized Internet Negotiation of Keys (KINK) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Steve Bellovin

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Randy Bush.*

o Set of two documents - 4 of 4
- draft-ietf-ips-fcip-slp-07.txt
Finding FCIP Entities Using SLPv2 (Proposed Standard)
- draft-ietf-ips-iscsi-slp-06.txt
Finding iSCSI Targets and Name Servers Using SLP (Proposed
Standard)
Token: Allison Mankin

The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Thomas Narten.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item

NONE

2.2.2 Returning Item

o draft-mealling-iana-xmlns-registry-05.txt - 1 of 3
The IETF XML Registry (BCP)
Token: Ted Hardie

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Thomas Narten.*

o Set of four documents - 2 of 3
- draft-zeilenga-ldap-collective-08.txt
Collective Attributes in LDAP (Proposed Standard)
- draft-zeilenga-ldap-subentry-07.txt
Subentries in LDAP (Proposed Standard)
- draft-legg-ldap-gser-abnf-07.txt
Common Elements of GSER Encodings (Informational)
- draft-legg-ldap-gser-04.txt
Generic String Encoding Rules for ASN.1 Types (Proposed Standard)
Token: Ted Hardie

The documents were approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement.

o draft-yergeau-rfc2279bis-05.txt - 3 of 3
UTF-8, a transformation format of ISO 10646 (Standard)
Token: Ted Hardie

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement.

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item

o draft-ietf-ipngwg-ipv6-anycast-analysis-02.txt - 1 of 4
An analysis of IPv6 anycast (Informational)
Token: Thomas Narten

The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

o draft-ietf-ieprep-ets-general-03.txt - 2 of 4
General Requirements for Emergency Telecommunication Service
(Informational)
Token: Jon Peterson

The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

o draft-ietf-xmldsig-xpf2-00.txt - 3 of 4
XML-Signature XPath Filter 2.0 (Informational)
Token: Russ Housley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

o draft-ietf-dhc-unused-optioncodes-05.txt - 4 of 4
Unused DHCP Option Codes (Informational)
Token: Thomas Narten

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor
Note to be prepared by Thomas Narten. The Secretariat will send
a working group submission Document Action Announcement that
includes the RFC Editor Note.

3.1.2 Returning Item

o draft-ietf-xmldsig-xc14n-01.txt - 1 of 2
Exclusive XML Canonicalization, Version 1.0 (Informational)
Token: Russ Housley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
resolve points raised by Randy Bush and Russ Housley, who were
not present at the teleconference.

o draft-ietf-pkix-pr-tsa-05.txt - 2 of 2
Policy Requirements for Time-Stamping Authorities (Informational)
Token: Russ Housley

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item

o draft-fink-6bone-phaseout-04.txt - 1 of 1
6bone (IPv6 Testing Address Allocation) Phaseout (Informational)
Token: Randy Bush

The document was approved by the IESG pending confirmation from
the shepherding AD, Randy Bush, who was not present at the
teleconference.

3.2.2 Returning Item

NONE

3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item

NONE

3.3.2 Returning Item

o draft-shah-extreme-eaps-03.txt - 1 of 1
Extreme Networks' Ethernet Automatic Protection Switching (EAPS),
Version 1 (Informational)
Token: Thomas Narten

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this
document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem"
message to the RFC Editor.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

o Mobility for IPv4 - 1 of 2
Token: Thomas Narten

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with copies to
new-work@ietf.org and to the proposed WG chairs. The Secretariat
will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference.

o Centralized Conferencing - 2 of 2
Token: Allison Mankin

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with copies to
new-work@ietf.org and to the proposed WG chairs. The Secretariat
will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference.

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

o Multicast Security - 1 of 3
Token: Russ Housley

The IESG approved the modifications to the charter. The Secretariat
will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

o IP over Cable Data Network - 2 of 3
Token: Bert Wijnen

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with
copies to new-work@ietf.org and to the WG chairs. The Secretariat
will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference.

o AToM MIB - 3 of 3
Token: Bert Wijnen

The IESG approved the modifications to the charter. The Secretariat
will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

NONE

5. Working Group News We Can Use

6. IAB News We Can Use

o Review of boxes and arrows (Bert Wijnen)
(discussed)

7. Management Issues

o IESG architechtural questions to IAB (Bert Wijnen)
(discussed)
o Procedures on DNP statements (Harald Alvestrand)
(discussed)


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