RE: IESG Issue 1

["Putzolu, David" <david.putzolu@intel.com>]

Announcing the qualifications is a good change, and the
text looks good to me.  In the interest of being completely 
precise, add where it is announced:

OLD NEW:

   14.  The Chair obtains the list of IESG and IAB positions to be
	  reviewed and a description of the desirable qualifications for

        those positions. This information is announced, along with a 
        solicitation for names of volunteers from the IETF community 
        willing to serve on the nominating committee.

NEW:

   14.  The Chair obtains the list of IESG and IAB positions to be
	  reviewed and a description of the desirable qualifications for

        those positions. This information is announced on 
        ietf-announce@ietf.org, along with a solicitation for names 
        of volunteers from the IETF community willing to serve on 
        the nominating committee.

-David


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Margaret.Wasserman@nokia.com 
> [mailto:Margaret.Wasserman@nokia.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:54 AM
> To: kre@munnari.OZ.AU
> Cc: iesg@ietf.org; ietf-nomcom@lists.elistx.com
> Subject: RE: IESG Issue 1
> 
> 
> >| The list of positions is posted publicly along with the call for
> >| nominations.  So, would this information (which will come 
> in through
> >| the same channel, probably at the same time) also be 
> posted publicly?
> > 
> > I agree with Scott's answer to Avri's question.   Yes, of 
> > course it is.
> > 
> > How could anyone rationally imagine a job ad (which is 
> > essentially what a call for nominations is - except no 
> > remuneration is being offered...)in which there was no 
> > statement of what qualifications and abilities are
> > expected of those who might apply (or be nominated for) 
> > the job in question.
> > 
> > That information is essential.
> 
> No information of this sort has been included in any of 
> the nomcom announcements that I've ever seen.  I have not
> been on the IESG/IAB during a nomcom cycle, so I can't
> personally attest to whether it was sent to the nomcom or
> not, but it wasn't published.
> 
> I applaud the nomcom WG for adding the requirement that
> the IESG and IAB submit a list of qualifications.  I am 
> also glad that you, at least, think it should be sent 
> publicly, because that is my preference.
> 
> However, I couldn't find anywhere in the document that
> actually _says_ that, and I did find at least one place
> (see below) that seemed (to me) to indicate otherwise.
> 
> We have now spent approximately 10 times as much effort
> arguing about whether or not this is clear than it would
> have taken to write the text to clarify it...
> 
> If the nomcom WG agrees that it was your intent that this
> information should be sent publicly, how about making 
> that explicit like this:
> 
> OLD:
> 
>    14.  The Chair obtains the list of IESG and IAB positions to be
>         reviewed and announces it along with a solicitation 
> for names of
>         volunteers from the IETF community willing to serve on the
>         nominating committee.
> 
> NEW:
> 
>    14.  The Chair obtains the list of IESG and IAB positions to be
> 	  reviewed and a description of the desirable 
> qualifications for 
>         those positions. This information is announced, along with a 
>         solicitation for names of volunteers from the IETF community 
>         willing to serve on the nominating committee.
> 
> Margaret
> 
> > 
> 
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