Re: draft-ietf-webdav-acl-12

[Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>]

> Alex, is there a short list of what's been changed since the
> last time we saw this?  A quick wdiff shows that none of my
> concerns have been satisifed, but it would take a very careful
> read-through to be sure.  In fact, it's often been made worse;
> see the new text in 19.2, which says "here's the privileges you
> need, but if you don't have them you may get access anyway, and
> if you do have them you may not get access despite what we say".
> I objected to 7.4, which badly described the access control for
> DELETE; the response was to delete the section entirely, and thus
> say nothing -- but DELETE still exists.  9.4 is almost unchanged.
> 5.2 still speaks of dialog boxes.  Etc.
> 
> I see no reason to change my vote from "abstain".  For the benefit
> of those who are new to the IESG, I'll repeat my comment from then:
> 
> 	I'm listing myself as "abstain" rather than "discuss",
> 	because I have no suggested changes short of "go back and
> 	start over", and I don't regard that as likely. But I'm
> 	not saying "no-ob" because I do think this document is
> 	dangerous, especially Section 6.

i almost drowned in this document.  it needs being killed.

randy