RE: The RADIUS attribute space: an assessment

["Glen Zorn \(gwz\)" <gwz@cisco.com>]

aland@nitros9.org <mailto:aland@nitros9.org> supposedly scribbled:

> "Glen Zorn \(gwz\)" <gwz@cisco.com> wrote:
>> This is a red herring: any vendor that can't keep the same interfaces
>> for RADIUS while supporting Diameter doesn't deserve to be in
>> business. 
> 
>   You're joking, right?
> 
>   As far as I can tell, counting by the number of deployments,
> FreeRADIUS is the #2 RADIUS server on the planet.  Maybe by your
> logic the project doesn't "deserve to be in business".  But sticking
> your head in the sand and pretending it doesn't exist won't change
> things.  

So you're saying that it is not possible to extend FreeRADIUS to support Diameter in the way that I suggest?  I think that I would be a little put off by that, were I a FreeRADIUS developer.  
  
> 
>   The reality is that many people who've deployed RADIUS *don't* have
> an upgrade path to Diameter.  They don't have a free Diameter server
> they can use, and they don't have the budget to buy a commercial one.
> Even if they did have the budget to buy a commercial one, it would
> have significantly fewer features than the RADIUS server they're
> using right now.  

Look at the list of new attributes in Bernard's original email.  Are you telling me that these poor, poverty-stricken folks actually are going to need to support GEOPRIV & MobileIP?

> 
>   If you want to push Diameter, the best thing you could do is to
> fund the development of an Open Source Diameter server with a massive
> feature set, 

Who funds FreeRADIUS?

> followed by ensuring that all NAS equipment supports
> Diameter.   
> 
>   Until that happens, Diameter will continue to languish.

For years now, the most common questions I've heard from SP customers has been a variation on "What's happening with Diameter?  Is it the wave of the future or a dead-end?  Is the IETF supporting it or not?", all of which boil down to "Should we start thinking about migrating from RADIUS?".  Of course, the only answer I can give is "I don't know".  It appears that in your world the waffling of the IESG has had no effect upon this market confusion.
> 
>   Alan DeKok.

Hope this helps,

~gwz

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  listening to John Coltrane? -- Henry Gabriel

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