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RE: IESG review DISCUSS ondraft-ietf-radext-management-authorization-06.txt



 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: iesg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On 
> Behalf Of Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:32 PM
> To: d.b.nelson@comcast.net
> Cc: iesg@ietf.org; radiusext@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: RE: IESG review DISCUSS 
> ondraft-ietf-radext-management-authorization-06.txt
> 
> Dave Nelson wrote:
> 
> > The attributes that have variability are the NAS-ID and 
> NAS-Port-ID, 
> > which are basically as you have indicated -- human readable strings 
> > with no specific recommended format.  I have to think that these 
> > attributes were (a) intended for use in accounting, where they are 
> > simply logged verbatim for humans to inspect later on or (b) were 
> > intended for use in authentication and/or or authorization 
> decisions, 
> > in some vendor-specific fashion.  The RFCs don't give us 
> any guidance 
> > here.
> > 
> > If there are (b) usages, it might be nice to standardize 
> them someday.  
> > The point we were making was that it's not directly related 
> to the NAS 
> > Management Authorization work, and it's something that may be very 
> > difficult to achieve consensus on, given the large diversity of 
> > implementations over a large number of years.  In sort, the authors 
> > feel that it would be unreasonable to hold *this* draft accountable 
> > for solving that problem.
> 
> I was not asking this draft to fully solve the problems about 
> NAS-Port-Id.
> 
> I was asking a very specific suggestion: given that many 
> NASes implementing this specification will probably send the 
> IP address (and possibly port number) of the SSH/NETCONF/etc. 
> client *somewhere* in the Access-Request packet, should the 
> document give some guidance on what attribute/format could be used?
> 
> Do I understand correctly that you think it's better to *not* 
> give any guidance, leaving each vendor to do things differently? 
> (remembering that we're talking about new NASes that 
> implement the attributes from this draft, not old stuff)
> 
> Best regards,
> Pasi
> 

My opinion is that it is better to not give any guidance in this
document, for the reasons mentioned by David. A proper and complete
solution would require long discussions and I am not certain is within
the scope here, and in the absence of a complete solution I prefer to
leave this implementation dependent at this point in time. 

Dan

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