RE: Arbitrary concatenation proposals

[John Drake <jdrake@calient.net>]

Oh now

-----Original Message-----
From: Eve Varma [mailto:evarma@lucent.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 5:54 PM
To: John Drake
Cc: 'Mannie, Eric'; ccamp@ops.ietf.org; ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com;
q11/15; t1x1.5; 'rcoltun@redback.com'; 'kireeti@juniper.net'; Dimitri
Papadimitriou (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Arbitrary concatenation proposals


Why don't you ask one of the authors of the draft directly?  

                       Eve

John Drake wrote:
> 
> This is really odd.  Perhaps Eve would enlighten us on Lucent's change of
> heart
> regarding tranparency and arbitrary concatenation?
> 
> I.e., just last week Zhi-Wei Lin was using the phrases "if an idea stinks,
> it doesn't
> matter how many times some idea is presented, it still stinks that many
> times" and
> "if you see a million flies eating feces, would you also eat?" to describe
> them.
> 
> Certainly, he didn't feel that way when he included them in his draft?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mannie, Eric [mailto:Eric.Mannie@ebone.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:33 PM
> To: ccamp@ops.ietf.org; ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com; q11/15; t1x1.5
> Cc: 'rcoltun@redback.com'; 'kireeti@juniper.net'; Dimitri Papadimitriou
> (E-mail)
> Subject: Arbitrary concatenation proposals
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> About the industry support for *arbitrary* concatenation, *transparency*
and
> *AUG-X, TUG-X, VTG*, I would like to recommend the reading of the
following
> draft that was presented at the last IETF meeting:
> 
>
http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lin-ccamp-ipo-common-label-requ
> est-00.txt
> 
>       "Common Label and Label Request Specification
>         for Automatic Switched Transport Network"
> 
> Abstract: "This draft completes the [GMPLS-REORG] draft and details
> technology specific issues. It proposes different approach and enhancement
> to [GMPLS-SIG] and [GMPLS-SIGEN]...."
> 
> In this draft the authors proposed signal types that combine the coding of
> the type of signal itself (including AUG-X, TUG-X and VTG), plus
> transparency, plus arbitrary concatenation, etc.
> 
> I would like to know if their products support arbitrary concatenation,
> AUG-X, TUG-X, etc ?
> 
> The authors (all from the same company) requested to incorporate their
> proposal for arbitrary concatenation, transparency, and the "group type"
of
> signals into GMPLS. During this meeting, the authors were strongly
convinced
> that their proposal should have been merged within GMPLS. This was also
> extensively discussed by e-mails.
> 
> >Again, in terms of metrics, what is considered "interesting for the
> >industry"? By the vendor community or the carrier community? I just want
> >us to be clear...no more, no less....
> 
> Well, I hope this helps, at least this vendor considered these features
> sufficiently important to write a draft of 16 pages, to present it and to
> defend it.
> 
> Of course, Errera Humanum Est (or something like that :-)
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Eric
> 
> Eric Mannie
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