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Re: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-architecture-06.txt

bert,

if the RFC's that are in the queue might already
receive a number this would help in aligning with
the point 2 of the summary you have provided here
(this said it was the intent to differentiate b/w
the RFC's produced in the scope/directly related
of/to GMPLS, for inst. RSVP-TE-GMPLS from the ones
that were produced independently, for instance RFC
2750, this is probably not needed anymore) anyway
what i'd suggest is to have a version "RFC ready"
but in an IESG reviewed status as you have also
suggested here below

see below for some additional input concerning the
i-d status (for the routing ones please refer to
the editor(s)

Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote:
During IESG review, Thomas/Erik both have raised the
question that this doc had so many normative references
that seem to be "Work in Progress".
So I have checked and found the below.

Summary:
- Would be good to have the doc names spelled out, so that reviewers
(and RFC-Editor) can quickly find the normative ref.
- Would be good to change [SOME-DOC-NAME] to [RFCxxxx] if an RFC is
already published. Would be more consistent with other RFCs that
are being referenced, and makes it easier to see which docs are
already published
- We have some 5 docs in WGs still and it is not clear how quick
they will come out
- We have some 4 or 5 that are in various stages of IESG review
and seem to need work.

So it looks, that when we approve this and put it in RFCed queue,
it will probably hang in that queue for a long time.
WG and WG chairs, what do you want to do about that?

---- status of various normative references --

Here are the WiP docs that are normative and the status as I fas as I
could determine (updates from WG chairs will be appreciated):

[BUNDLE] K.Kompella, Y.Rekhter and L.Berger, "Link Bundling
in MPLS Traffic Engineering," Work in Progress.
This is: draft-ietf-mpls-bundle-04.txt
in RFCed queue

[CR-LDP-UNNUM] K.Kompella, Y.Rekhter and A.Kullberg, "Signalling
Unnumbered Links in CR-LDP," Work in Progress.
Published as RFC3480

[GMPLS-FUNCT] J.P.Lang and B.Rajagopalan (Editors) et al.,
"Generalized MPLS Recovery Functional
Specification," Work in Progress.
This is: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-recovery-functional-00.txt
Not sure where this stands in WG
revision has to be submitted (soon)


   [GMPLS-G709]    D.Papadimitriou (Editor) et al., "GMPLS Signaling
                   Extensions for G.709 Optical Transport Networks
                   Control," Work in progress.
This is: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-03.txt
Not sure where this stands in WG

provide a last revision of it and ask for a last call
[GMPLS-OVERLAY] G.Swallow et al., "GMPLS RSVP Support for the
Overlay Model," Work in Progress.
This is: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-overlay-01.txt
Still in WG (did not get much content discussion yet, but yet
it seems WG chairs want to do WG Last Call)

[GMPLS-ROUTING] K.Kompella and Y.Rekhter (Editors) et al., "Routing
Extensions in Support of Generalized MPLS," Work in
Progress.
This is: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-routing-05.txt
Went through IETF Last Call.
Quite some comments. Is back in WG to address comments (been there for a while in fact. Wg chairs did not ye responde to
my repeated pinging on status)
>
[GMPLS-SONET-SDH] E.Mannie and D.Papadimitriou (Editors) et al.,
"Generalized MPLS Extensions for SONET and SDH
Control," Work in progress.
This is: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-sonet-sdh-08.txt
Is in RFCed queue
[HIERARCHY] K.Kompella and Y.Rekhter, "LSP Hierarchy with
Generalized MPLS TE," Work in Progress.
This is: draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-hierarchy-08.txt
Is in RFCed queue

[LMP] J.P.Lang (Editor) et al., "Link Management Protocol
(LMP)," Work in progress.
This is: draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp-08.txt
Is in IESG evaluation. Has some DISCUSSes though.
work is ongoing to provide a response to the DISCUSS
points


   [LMP-WDM]       A.Fredette and J.P.Lang (Editors) et al., "LMP for
                   WDM Optical Line Systems (LMP-WDM)," Work in
                   progress.
This is: draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp-wdm-02.txt
In: AD-Evaluation, revised ID needed

well for this one it depends, how long it will take
after the revised i-d submission to have the review
from the iesg (do you expect further action on this ?)
[OSPF-TE-GMPLS] K.Kompella and Y.Rekhter (Editors), "OSPF Extensions
in Support of Generalized MPLS," Work in Progress.
This is: draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-gmpls-extensions-09.txt
This had serious OETF Last Call comments, to be addressed by WG/authors

[OSPF-TE] D.Katz, D.Yeung, and K.Kompella, "Traffic
Engineering Extensions to OSPF", Work in Progress.
This is: draft-katz-yeung-ospf-traffic-09.txt
IESG evaluation, point raised

Thanks,
Bert 
thanks,
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