RE: ASON reqts

[John Drake <jdrake@calient.net>]

Great, thanks

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Varma, Eve L (Eve) [mailto:evarma@lucent.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 10:30 AM
> To: John Drake; Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
> Cc: 'ccamp@ops.ietf.org'
> Subject: RE: ASON reqts
> 
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> If you want to work with the primary contributors to the 
> development of G.8080, then it is essential you be engaged in 
> conversations with Alan McGuire, George Newsome, Malcolm 
> Betts, Mike Mayer at least (my apologies to other 
> contributors of text that I have not acknowledged). In terms 
> of RSVP extensions aspects, direct engagement with the editor 
> of G.7713.2 (Dimitrios Penderakis) and the former editor of 
> G.7713, who worked through early Feb. '03 on this document 
> (Zhi-Wei Lin) would be advisable as well.  Your constructive 
> interaction with these players would do much to improve the 
> relationship.  Deborah's involvement is more recent, as I'm 
> sure she would acknowledge.
> 
> With best regards,
> Eve
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Drake [mailto:jdrake@calient.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 12:18 PM
> To: John Drake; 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'
> Cc: 'ccamp@ops.ietf.org'
> Subject: RE: ASON reqts
> 
> 
> Bert,
> 
> Also, I don't know if you noticed but Deborah Brungard, who 
> was a major
> contributor to G.8080 (ASON), helped us out with the RSVP 
> extensions I-D
> (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dimitri-ccamp-gmpls
> -rsvp-te-ason-
> 00.txt).
> 
> So we really are trying to make the ITU/IETF working 
> relationship better.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Drake 
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:09 AM
> > To: 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'
> > Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: ASON reqts
> > 
> > 
> > Bert,
> > 
> > We're discussing submitting the two drafts 
> > (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-papadimitriou-ccamp
> > -gmpls-ason-reqts-00.txt, 
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dimitri-ccamp-gmpls-
> > rsvp-te-ason-00.txt) as contributions to the ITU meeting in 
> > Chicago next month.
> > 
> > The intention is to work closely with T1X1 and ITU in order 
> > to get them a satisfactory GMPLS solution, but we still need 
> > to follow the IETF process for work done in the IETF.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 8:56 AM
> > > To: John Drake
> > > Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org
> > > Subject: RE: ASON reqts
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-andersson-mpls-g-chn
> > > g-proc-00.txt.
> > > > (It's the one you co-authored.)
> > > > 
> > > Aha... OK, that doc still needs approval.
> > > We have sort of agreed that we would test-run a document from MPLS
> > > WG through the process to see how/if it works.
> > > 
> > > But more to the point, that document is on how we control 
> > work brought
> > > to the IETF. It does not control how we interact as decent 
> > > human beings
> > > and decent organisations with our counterparts.
> > > 
> > > The ASON specs (including how to do GMPLS for ASON) were done 
> > > by ITU-T.
> > > So we cannot just assume that we need to take over. I do 
> not believe
> > > that tha above change-control-procedures are intended to specify
> > > how we take away or steal or whatever-term-you-want-use work from
> > > other organisations.
> > > 
> > > That is why I suggested the decent communication path in 
> my earlier
> > > posting.
> > > 
> > > Bert
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 8:11 AM
> > > > > To: John Drake
> > > > > Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org
> > > > > Subject: RE: ASON reqts
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Bert,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I thought that we had a process - the post RFC3474 
> process.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > I guess I must have missed that. 
> > > > > Where is that or what are you referring to?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I also know that some of you do not believe we did 
> send the ASON
> > > > > people away... but for me that it what it boiled down to.
> > > > > YMMV
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bert
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
>