Re: ace leaking (was: Re: [idn] Debunking the ACE myth)

[liana.ydisg@juno.com]

For each language, there is one language tag, so  
hin-namaskar.com is different with guj-namaskar.com.
The tag provide over 17,000 different language labels for
the issue you addressed.

Liana


On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:15:47 -0700 "Deven Kalra" <kalra@langoo.net>
writes:
> Paul:
> 
> You have an interesting point. I can definitely speak for the Indian
> scenario.
> 
> As you might know, Indian languages share a common derivation. 
> Northern
> Indian languages are derived from Sanskrit/Devanagri. Similarly 
> southern
> Indian languages share a common heritage. This is complicated by the 
> fact
> that southern Indian languages use many sanskrit words though they 
> write
> them in their own scripts.
> 
> Because of the British influence in India, almost every Indian 
> language has
> developed a romanization. Names of people and places are commonly 
> written
> both in the romanized form and the native script form. Because the 
> same
> words are used in multiple languages, the romanized forms are quite 
> similar
> if not same. For example, namaskar.com will be transliterated or 
> romanized
> in the same for in Hindi and Gujarati. Therefore, if we provide the 
> ascii
> name by default to the the Hindi namaskar.com, the gujarati will not 
> have
> any ascii
> form.
> 
> I think part of the problem is that we are thinking of the problem 
> in a very
> English oriented manner. In my opinion, one of the big reasons that 
> people
> will want to get IDN is because they want their customers/users to 
> be able
> to be able to use their language. The fact that people should be 
> able to
> reach their site through ascii is a nice to have but not either a 
> motivation
> or a barrier to get the IDN.
> 
> One part of the solution will be to provide people tools to enter 
> the data
> in thier language on any platform without requiring excessive 
> localization
> or major software rehaul so they are not forced to type ascii to get 
> to a
> website if it has and IDN.
> 
> Deven
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-idn@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-idn@ops.ietf.org]On 
> Behalf Of
> Paul Hoffman / IMC
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 11:29 AM
> To: Marc Blanchet; idn@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: Re: ace leaking (was: Re: [idn] Debunking the ACE myth)
> 
> 
> At 12:10 PM -0400 7/24/01, Marc Blanchet wrote:
> >I would guess the opposite (i.e. two domain names: one pure ascii
> >and one full-idn (without showing the ace equivalent) ,
> >but who knows the future...
> 
> That's easy for someone whose company name makes reasonable sense in
> pure ASCII to say. Telling Chinese and Indian speakers that they 
> must
> register a domain name in pure ASCII is quite different. 
> Romanization
> works poorly for many languages; few Americans and Europeans realize
> that.
> 
> --Paul Hoffman, Director
> --Internet Mail Consortium
> 
>