RE: [idn] opting out of SC/TC equivalence

["Kenny Huang" <huangk@alum.sinica.edu>]

Hi James,

"A script is a written form of a language". Again, we may want to question :
"What is the goal of this WG" or "What is the need of non-English speaker" ?
Are you proposing we should setup a MDN WG to replace things have
done so far ?


Kenny Huang

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-idn@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-idn@ops.ietf.org]On Behalf Of James Seng/Personal
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:57 PM
To: tsenglm@cc.ncu.edu.tw; liana.ydisg@juno.com
Cc: idn@ops.ietf.org; dhc@dcrocker.net
Subject: Re: [idn] opting out of SC/TC equivalence


As much as I agree with Prof Tseng well-intention, unfortunately, the
concept of "language" is out of scope for the working group.

This working is chartered to do "Internationalized access to Domain
Names". Unfortunately, domain names understand only "script" not
"language". It does not matter what you wish, it can't be done in Domain
Names (It can be done in some other mechanism of course).

And we are doing "Internationalization" not "Multilingualism". These may
just be terminology but the subtle differences in these terms makes a
lot of differences. I learn it the hard way for those who is with the WG
from the beginning.

Thus, I would modify your statement below to: "from each SCRIPT
users/engineers and ask them how they want their scripts to be use".
(ie. all han ideograph (CJK) users should talk about han folding
together if we going down the path of tsconv).

-James Seng

----- Original Message -----
From: <liana.ydisg@juno.com>
To: <tsenglm@cc.ncu.edu.tw>
Cc: <idn@ops.ietf.org>; <dhc@dcrocker.net>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [idn] opting out of SC/TC equivalence


> I agree with Prof. Tseng's point.  And I suggest that
> we shall collect inputs from each language users/engineers
>  and ask them what do they think about their scripts should
> be handled.  What are the non-semantic issues that
> could be dealed with [nameprep] type of simple scheme and
> benifit long term communication and identification of
> a hostname on the internet.
>
> Liana
>
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:14:37 +0800
> =?UTF-8?B?dHNlbmdsbUDoqIjntrLkuK3lv4Mu5Lit5aSnLnR3?=
> <tsenglm@cc.ncu.edu.tw> writes:
>        If your statements are meant John is the God father , so no
> > one can
> > pass over the line he defined , I will ask what is the goal of this
> > WG ?
> > Does it is used to hurt other people in this world ?
> >       IDN is very complex ,  but if  you try to neglect some truth
> > then the
> > political issue will be introduced , then no one will be happy .
> >
> > L.M.Tseng
> >
>