[idn] Re: [JET-member 446] Re: Fw: Re: new members invitation

["James Seng/Personal" <jseng@pobox.org.sg>]

Prof Tseng,

I do not see what so strange about my comment. IETF is an engineering
group so we deal with technical issues. Political, economy and business
issues are really out not our concern.

But cc: IDN WG at this moment without relevant discussion which taken
place in JET mailing list is confusing to other so let me pull a piece
of our discussion:

Deng Xiang comment that TC-SC that:

"Because IDN should be global protocol and will force all Chinese users
to register all form TC/SC domain  name and pay unlimited money and face
unlimited domain name disputation. Do you still think it's the local
issue?

Yes. all over the world. If you want earn money from Chinese people."

I responded that

"While I sympathis with this argument, unfortunately, IETF usually do
not consider non-technical issues relevant. This is considered Layer 9
aka "political" issues from IETF perspective." (Lee then corrected me
that this is a "economy" issues, not "political")

and also

"We dont ask how much CNNIC charges per name, nor we care what Verisign
charges to their registrar. neither do we can how much Entrust or
Baltimore charges per certificate nor do we regulate how much hosting
companies going to charge to their customer.

None of these cost is a concern to IETF. We leave these to market force
to play it. That is the nature of the free-market forces."

-James Seng


> > > TC/SC tables are just less than 10K, while NFKC/Legacy/Font
> > requirements
> > > is much higher. implementation complexity is for engineers.
> > > but, deployment costs are transferred to innocent end users.
> >
> > I am not going to argue for or against TC/SC here. I am stuck in the
> > middle myself, torn between been a Chinese and been a co-chair for
IDN.
> >
> > But the arguments for inclusive of TC/SC or not should be done on a
pure
> > technical evaluation basis in IETF. Economy arguments as above is
not a
> > factor for consideration.
> >
> > This is why it is known as engineering trade off, not economy trade
off.
> >
> > -James Seng
> >
> James:
>              Let us to know what is pure technical evaluation basis in
your
> mind as you are a co-chair in an IETF working group.
>              If an Engineering Requirement is not related to the
user's cost
> and what are user need that must be a very interest projects.  I think
many
> members in IDN WG of IETF also like to know the detail .  You give me
a very
> strange impression of IETF.  Can someone in IETF can help more ?
>
> L.M.Tseng
>