Re: [idn] what are the IDN identifiers?

[liana Ye <liana.ydisg@juno.com>]

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:27:46 +0800 "James Seng/Personal"
<jseng@pobox.org.sg> writes:
> >   We have [STD13] defines that LDH are the DNS identifiers,
> > then what are the IDN identifiers?  UCS is too big and contains
> > many semantically equivalent characters for IDN.  Should we
> > ask for a table of semantically equivalent character sets
> > definition table from Unicode Consortium?
> 
> To me, what you saying is no different from Normalization Form.
> 
> > 1) label separators, ie puncturations and formating marks
> > 2) structured data indicators, ie. $/%/& ...
> > 3) unstructured data identifiers, ie. alphabet, CJKs,
> >  sound marks...
> 
> Take a look at the categories. It is already there. We just have to 
> use
> it properly.
> 
> > 1)case insensitive,
> 
> Case folding. Done.
> 
> > 2)size or width insensitive,
> 
> Normalization Form. Done.
> 
> > 3)font insensitive (include majority of TC/SC)
> 
> Unicode Consortium dont deal with fonts. It provide characters for
> references, but not fonts standardisation. TC-SC is not "font
> sensitivity" issues.
> 
> > 4)language insensitive (include CJK),
> 
> Normalization form *is* language insensitive. It only deals with
> scripts.
> 
> > 5)combination insensitive(regardless NFC or KNFC).
> 
> >   Language insensitive: ie. circled numbers, circled
> > Han numerals, Dingbats, subset of CJKs.  But other
> > subset of CJK will be different semantically for each
> > languages, then we have to have separated tables to
> > work with for each or them.
> 
> You are venturing into a very dangerous area of script vs language.
> ISO10646 and UCS is a script based CCS, not a language-based.
> The moment we want to deal with "language", we are on our own.
> 
> AFAICS, we do have agreement that we can do I18N, => script.
> We do not have agreement to do multilingual => language.
> Please dont confuse the two.
> 
> I have no intention to start a conversation about "multilingual 
> domain
> names". We tried and the conclusion is that it is not possible.
> 
> -James Seng
> 

Thank you, I like your conclusion very much, so you are close 
minded about using tags, is that correct?

Liana