Re: Inputting mixed SC/TC (Re: [idn] A question...)

["James Seng/Personal" <jseng@pobox.org.sg>]

I am not responding to this mail because it will only divert into
another series of discussions on your opinion of IDNA, which the group
(and the chairs) have heard before and already noted.

I stand by my action. Lets other be the judge.

-James Seng

----- Original Message -----
From: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
To: <idn@ops.ietf.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Inputting mixed SC/TC (Re: [idn] A question...)


> James Seng/Personal writes:
> > 1. We did not move IDNA forward in May/June 2001
>
> What exactly has changed since then? You've been tweaking details. We
> were objecting to fundamental flaws in the IDNA design. Those flaws
are
> still present in the current IDNA design. We continue to object to
them.
>
> > 2. The minutes from SLC have been send to the group and for
comments.
> >    Action items from the SLC include consensus to move IDNA for Last
> >    Call.
>
> The working group is _not_ the same as the set of people who show up
at
> an IETF meeting. See RFC 2418, section 3.2:
>
>    Electronic mail permits the widest participation ... The WG must
>    ensure that its process does not serve to exclude contribution by
>    email-only participants ... Internet email discussion is possible
for
>    a much wider base of interested persons than is attendance at IETF
>    meetings, due to the time and expense required to attend.
>
> I accuse you of bias in your procedures for evaluating consensus. You
> select procedures on the fly to support your position:
>
>    * You run straw polls that you think will support IDNA, and you
>      refuse to run other straw polls.
>
>    * You say ``A louder voice does not make anyone more important than
>      others'' when several of us put a great deal of time into
>      explaining the flaws in your proposals in detail.
>
>    * You say ``This is not an election'' when more than _two hundred_
>      people state that they object to your proposals.
>
> What's consistent is that you're discounting the views of people who
> disagree with you. I call upon you to resign and find someone neutral
to
> serve as chair.
>
> ---D. J. Bernstein, Associate Professor, Department of Mathematics,
> Statistics, and Computer Science, University of Illinois at Chicago
>
>