jabber log from our MIB Doctor Lunch Meeting

["Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>]

[11:20:39] *bert has set the topic to: MIB Doctors Lunch Meeting in Dallas
[11:35:14] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> hi bert, when is the meeting supposed to start?[11:45:08] <bert> in a few minutes
[11:45:19] <bert> Are you linked into the audio now?

[11:47:31] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> I just lost the stream, but it is back again now.
[11:48:41] <bert> the audio channel is the one for MIRO room
[11:49:38] <bert> so channel 7 i think
[11:51:12] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> I now hear Andy talking in the background - so I guess I am in the right channel.
[11:51:32] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> yes
[11:51:48] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> not yet
[11:52:39] <dbh2> dave harrington is here
[11:54:47] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> not really
[11:59:51] <bert> do you hear sharon and davethaler
[12:00:08] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> no, I heard Dan but not the reaction
[12:00:20] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> now I hear Dave Perkins
[12:00:21] <bert> do you hear perkins
[12:03:00] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> Extracting the MIB from the ID has the benefit that I know I am looking at the MIB in the ID.
[12:04:47] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> Depends what you are looking for.
[12:05:55] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> There is smistrip which works on many IDs. Perhaps Frank can hook it on the web if that helps.
[12:07:41] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> The smistrip is a shell script and thus Unix specific.
[12:15:59] <dbh2> can you hear this discussion ok?
[12:16:12] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> kind of
[12:18:09] <dbh2> czn you hear sharon ok?
[12:18:40] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> could be better, but it works
[12:22:21] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> i have lost the audio and it does not seem to come back - still trying
[12:22:52] <bert> mmm  audio crew  went to lunch?
[12:23:21] <dbh2> not sure what happened.
[12:23:32] <dthaler> discussion that MIB construction is best when there is both domain expertise and MIB expertise involved
[12:24:02] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> I agree, this is the ideal case.
[12:24:26] <bert> it also takes the most effort for us to get involved in all the technologies
[12:24:28] <dthaler> question is how do we get that [12:25:06] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> doing a good mib review requires to get involved with technology to some extend
[12:25:53] <bert> andy says: get the protocold dovument to be particular about the managebale knobs
[12:26:07] <bert> I did not word that very well I suspect
[12:26:32] <dbh2> possibly a management considerations section
[12:27:17] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> I like the idea of management considerations, but it will take several years until people know what to put there...
[12:28:56] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> btw, the problem seems to be the streaming server which refuses to give me a stream (but otherwise works well)
[12:31:47] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> audio is back
[12:32:13] <bert> we're trying to define actional items
[12:32:21] <bert> dbh to complete mib template doc (xml)
[12:32:36] <bert> all, let Dan know who wants to continue as MIB doctor for Dan
[12:33:14] <bert> Bert to organize a edu-session at next IETF
[12:33:18] <bert> Dan will Help
[12:33:24] <bert> Sharon will help on that
[12:33:42] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> I already wrote an email to Frank]
[12:33:52] <bert> JuergenSchoenw can you act on getting more of your tools web/,mail accessible
[12:36:08] <bert> DaveT: proposes to get all current MIB authors explicitly invited to an EDU session that we may do at next IETF
[12:37:54] <dthaler> should be easy to do... bill fenner's mib site has all mibs and the date of them
[12:37:54] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> uml works if people know how to use uml - which is more than using a uml editor
[12:41:40] <dthaler> i think bert just coined the term "Perkinism" [12:42:27] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> bert, if there are things smilint should detect but does not, please let the developers know and we can see what we can do
[12:45:29] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> applause
[12:49:44] <bert> DAvidP and Bert to writeup what they want to add Thanks Juergen.
[12:49:56] <bert> We're closing up, BMWG is entering