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RE: jabber log from our MIB Doctor Lunch Meeting
<bert> all, let Dan know who wants to continue as MIB doctor for Dan [12:33:14]
Actually there was a little more than that - i.e. having each MIB doctor express preference for which WGs or areas they would like to play the role of MIB advisors.
Dan
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> [mailto:owner-mreview@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:18 PM
> To: Mreview (E-mail)
> Cc: Juergen Quittek (E-mail)
> Subject: jabber log from our MIB Doctor Lunch Meeting
>
> [11:20:39] *bert has set the topic to: MIB Doctors Lunch
> Meeting in Dallas [11:35:14]
> <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> hi bert, when is
> the meeting supposed to start?[11:45:08] <bert> in a few
> minutes [11:45:19] <bert> Are you linked into the audio now?
>
> [11:47:31] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> I just
> lost the stream, but it is back again now.
> [11:48:41] <bert> the audio channel is the one for MIRO room
> [11:49:38] <bert> so channel 7 i think [11:51:12]
> <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> I now hear Andy
> talking in the background - so I guess I am in the right channel.
> [11:51:32] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> yes
> [11:51:48] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> not yet
> [11:52:39] <dbh2> dave harrington is here [11:54:47]
> <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> not really
> [11:59:51] <bert> do you hear sharon and davethaler
> [12:00:08] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> no, I
> heard Dan but not the reaction [12:00:20]
> <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> now I hear Dave
> Perkins [12:00:21] <bert> do you hear perkins [12:03:00]
> <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> Extracting the MIB
> from the ID has the benefit that I know I am looking at the
> MIB in the ID.
> [12:04:47] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> Depends
> what you are looking for.
> [12:05:55] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> There
> is smistrip which works on many IDs. Perhaps Frank can hook
> it on the web if that helps.
> [12:07:41] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> The
> smistrip is a shell script and thus Unix specific.
> [12:15:59] <dbh2> can you hear this discussion ok?
> [12:16:12] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> kind of
> [12:18:09] <dbh2> czn you hear sharon ok?
> [12:18:40] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> could
> be better, but it works [12:22:21]
> <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> i have lost the
> audio and it does not seem to come back - still trying
> [12:22:52] <bert> mmm audio crew went to lunch?
> [12:23:21] <dbh2> not sure what happened.
> [12:23:32] <dthaler> discussion that MIB construction is best
> when there is both domain expertise and MIB expertise
> involved [12:24:02]
> <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> I agree, this is
> the ideal case.
> [12:24:26] <bert> it also takes the most effort for us to get
> involved in all the technologies [12:24:28] <dthaler>
> question is how do we get that [12:25:06]
> <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> doing a good mib
> review requires to get involved with technology to some
> extend [12:25:53] <bert> andy says: get the protocold
> dovument to be particular about the managebale knobs
> [12:26:07] <bert> I did not word that very well I suspect
> [12:26:32] <dbh2> possibly a management considerations
> section [12:27:17] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de>
> I like the idea of management considerations, but it will
> take several years until people know what to put there...
> [12:28:56] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> btw,
> the problem seems to be the streaming server which refuses to
> give me a stream (but otherwise works well) [12:31:47]
> <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> audio is back
> [12:32:13] <bert> we're trying to define actional items
> [12:32:21] <bert> dbh to complete mib template doc (xml)
> [12:32:36] <bert> all, let Dan know who wants to continue as
> MIB doctor for Dan [12:33:14] <bert> Bert to organize a
> edu-session at next IETF [12:33:18] <bert> Dan will Help
> [12:33:24] <bert> Sharon will help on that [12:33:42]
> <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> I already wrote an
> email to Frank] [12:33:52] <bert> JuergenSchoenw can you act
> on getting more of your tools web/,mail accessible [12:36:08]
> <bert> DaveT: proposes to get all current MIB authors
> explicitly invited to an EDU session that we may do at next
> IETF [12:37:54] <dthaler> should be easy to do... bill
> fenner's mib site has all mibs and the date of them
> [12:37:54] <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> uml
> works if people know how to use uml - which is more than
> using a uml editor [12:41:40] <dthaler> i think bert just
> coined the term "Perkinism" [12:42:27]
> <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> bert, if there are
> things smilint should detect but does not, please let the
> developers know and we can see what we can do [12:45:29]
> <j.schoenwaelder@jabber.eecs.iu-bremen.de> applause
> [12:49:44] <bert> DAvidP and Bert to writeup what they want
> to add Thanks Juergen.
> [12:49:56] <bert> We're closing up, BMWG is entering
>
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