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Re: [IANA #8510] RE: IF types durring review of EPON-04
HI,
In looking over <http://www.iana.org/assignments/smi-numbers>,
it concerns me that assignments are provided without having
stable documents. I propose that future assignments require
both a reference to a stable document, and the IANA be provide
a copy of the document, which is archived.
Regards,
/david t. perkins
On Tue, 23 May 2006, Michelle Cotton via RT wrote:
> All,
>
> For ifTypes, we have been going by the rule of expert review for assignment.
> (Keith and Bert were the experts, now Dan is taking Bert's place). Of course part of what
> the expert looks for is some type of specification in the application form.
> The ifTypes are listed at 2 locations.
>
> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/ianaiftype-mib>
> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/smi-numbers>
>
> The file at <http://www.iana.org/assignments/smi-numbers> does list the RFC or the person
> who to contact regarding the registration. Instead of a person's name, or along with the
> person's name, we could put the reference as well.
>
> I will await further suggestions from Keith and Dan as the experts. For now I'm
> administratively closing this ticket as it is not a "request" for a new iftype.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Michelle
> Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA)
>
>
>
> > [kzm@cisco.com - Mon May 15 09:48:07 2006]:
> >
> > These days, a "Reference, Internet-Draft, or Specification" is required
> > in order to register an ifType value (see the application form at:
> > http://www.iana.org/cgi-bin//iftypes.pl), but that wasn't always true.
> > Would it help if IANA were to publish the references that they do have ??
> >
> > Keith.
> >
> > > (copying IANA and Keith McCloghrie)
> > >
> > > If I understand well the issue that you are raising is the lack of
> > > documentation of many of the values defined at IANAifType. Indeed, many
> > > entries have some comments but no references, in some other cases the
> > > name of the enumerated value is the only available information.
> > >
> > > My assumption is that for a new MIB module designer and for reviewers
> > > the majority of the entries can be eliminated from start and with a
> > > small research effort the rest can be clarified. Sure we can improve
> > > documentation, and we can recommend to IANA that in the future each new
> > > assigned ifType value documents in more detail the technology and
> > > provides a reference. Note that in some cases providing a reference is
> > > not that easy, at initial registration the reference is an
> > > Internet-Draft, but then when it becomes an RFC who will be in charge
> > > with updating the reference? It would be interesting to hear other
> > > opinions to what extend is this a problem and to what extend this can be
> > > solved. Probably IANA has some historical records from previous
> > > registrations that could be used to improve the IANAifType TC
> > > documentation, but this is a small project that somebody needs to take
> > > charge about, and resources are scarce in our community.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-mreview@ops.ietf.org
> > > > [mailto:owner-mreview@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of David T. Perkins
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:25 PM
> > > > To: mreview@ops.ietf.org
> > > > Subject: IF types durring review of EPON-04
> > > >
> > > > HI,
> > > >
> > > > I'm doing a second review of EPON-04 I-D, which is
> > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-efm-epon
> > > > -mib-04.txt
> > > >
> > > > It is very complex and the previous review raised many questions.
> > > > The good news is that it is MUCH better, and it is finally to
> > > > the level that someone can make sense of it. However, given
> > > > that it is an interface MIB module, there are many additional
> > > > considerations that must be followed. I don't remember all of
> > > > them, and would need to refresh myself with these
> > > > considerations to do a complete job. Is there anyone that can
> > > > do a scan after I finish the first pass?
> > > >
> > > > One question that I have so far is what interface type to use
> > > > for the virtual links. The document uses the same value as
> > > > the physical (which is gigabitEthernet(117)), but it seems to
> > > > me that the propVirtual(53) is more appropriate.
> > > >
> > > > In trying to determine the value for ifType, I looked at
> > > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ianaiftype-mib
> > > > In it I see that there are 234 types defined.
> > > > This seems like an extremely large number. Also, there is not
> > > > a reference for each assigned value.
> > > > Thus, I could not figure out from looking at these values
> > > > what values the should be used in the EPON MIB module. This
> > > > seems like a generic problem that anyone implementing object
> > > > ifType would encounter. And a delemma for anyone creating a
> > > > new interface MIB module.
> > > >
> > > > Are there any suggestions that would help me now with the
> > > > EPON MIB module, and for making it easier for future
> > > > interface MIB module developers?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > /david t. perkins
> > > >
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