Re: b/w example values

[Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net>]

>>>>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:51:43 -0500, Bobby Krupczak <rdk@krupczak.org> said:

>> % foreach i (1 2 3 4 5)
>> echo "<ipCidrRouteMetric$i>-1</ipCidrRouteMetric$i>" >> data
>> end
>> % wc -c data
>> 220 data
>> % gzip data
>> % wc -c data.gz
>> 81 data.gz
>> 
>> (The ascii encoding is > 2.5 times larger even when compressed.)

Bobby> I think this example is more applicable to xml/no-xml discussion.
Bobby> Defaults/no-defaults probably wont change this ratio either
Bobby> way.

That data was defaults only.

>> Would you believe some of my environments deal with 128kb.  Heck, some
>> are still using 50 baud modems (but fortunately, I don't need to worry
>> about them).

Bobby> Some people still choose to live in the stone age . . .

No, they aren't physically connected to a fast network.  It is not by
choice.  The technology for remote environments isn't there yet.
You're in the middle of available bandwidth and other resources, not
at the edge where things are still critical.

Bobby> In summation, I feel your argument best sums up the to-xml or
Bobby> not-to-xml argument.

Nope.  Stream-lined xml still might be more useful than binary
encodings.  Full blown verbose XML vs binary encodings leaves less
room for decision making, I agree.

Bobby> I'd further argue that netconf might not have ever been
Bobby> appropriate as xml may be too fat for your environment
Bobby> regardless of defaults/no-defaults.

That's a possibility and I've mentioned it to several people.  The
protocol designs I originally spoke with told me they only wanted to
concentrate on core equipment where resources weren't a problem.  I'd
rather see something more in the middle ground so it can appease a
greater problem space.

Bobby> Thanks for your clarifcation on the environmental issues you are
Bobby> looking at.  Perhaps bring those up earlier next time . . . :)

Is that a polite way of saying "go away"?  Interesting.

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 and much more difficult to find."  -- Terry Pratchett

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