RE: IPR Notice

["Bound, Jim" <Jim.Bound@hp.com>]

Brian,

Re-Read the fine print and interpretations that can be made.  Royalty
free at what cost?  Now we have two IPRs for technology that could
widely pervasive for a long time and solve problems I am not clear even
need to be solved.  Not exactly MUST or even NICE to HAVE from product
market view.  This is just my opinion and not shared by my company or
any other affiliation.  I am against any form of this in the IETF now it
has to stop.

Thanks
/jim 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brc@zurich.ibm.com] 
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 10:11 AM
> To: Bound, Jim
> Cc: Jari Arkko; tom.petch; Geoff Huston; shim6@psg.com
> Subject: Re: IPR Notice
> 
> Jim, since one is a non-assert disclosure and the other is a 
> royalty-free disclosure, why do you say that?
> 
>      Brian
> 
> Bound, Jim wrote:
> > Makes it even more scary to implement IMHO as product.
> > /jim
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-shim6@psg.com [mailto:owner-shim6@psg.com] On Behalf Of 
> >>Jari Arkko
> >>Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 4:34 AM
> >>To: tom.petch
> >>Cc: Geoff Huston; shim6@psg.com
> >>Subject: Re: IPR Notice
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>How does this affect the Ericsson claim last April which, as I 
> >>>>recall, said that Ericsson would not assert its rights
> >>
> >>unless anyone
> >>
> >>>>claimed against Ericsson.
> >>>>Does this claim constitute such a claim against Ericsson?
> >>>>
> >>
> >>I am not a lawyer either, but I believe that is something 
> that affects 
> >>only those two companies, i.e. Microsoft and Ericsson. FWIW, my 
> >>understanding is that this does not change Ericsson's thinking or 
> >>implementation plans.
> >>
> >>For everyone else, nothing changed except that there is now 
> a second 
> >>IPR declaration. The relevant information in the new IPR 
> declaration 
> >>is Microsoft's conditions, i.e., no royalty etc. Personally, those 
> >>conditions look fine to me.
> >>
> >>--Jari
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
>