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Re: WG Review: IPv6 Operations (v6ops)
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- Subject: Re: WG Review: IPv6 Operations (v6ops)
- From: "Fred L. Templin" <ftemplin@IPRG.nokia.com>
- Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 16:49:11 -0700
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Comments on the new proposed charter follow:
* To: IETF-Announce: ;
* Subject: WG Review: IPv6 Operations (v6ops)
* From: Steve Coya <scoya@cnri.reston.va.us>
* Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:05:36 -0400
* Cc: new-work@ietf.org
A new IETF working group has been proposed in the Operations and
Management Area. The IESG has not made any determination as yet.
The following Description was submitted, and is provided for
informational purposes only:
IPv6 Operations (v6ops)
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Current Status: Proposed Working Group
Description of Working Group:
The global deployment of IPv6 is underway, creating an IPv4/IPv6
Internet consisting of IPv4-only, IPv6-only and IPv4/IPv6 networks and
nodes. This deployment must be properly handled to avoid the division
of the Internet into separate IPv4 and IPv6 networks while ensuring
global addressing and connectivity for all IPv4 and IPv6 nodes.
The IPv6 Operations Working Group (v6ops) develops guidelines for the
operation of a shared IPv4/IPv6 Internet and provides guidance for
network operators on how to deploy IPv6 into existing IPv4-only
networks, as well as into new network installations.
The v6ops working group will:
(1) Solicit input from network operators and users to identify
operational or security issues with the IPv4/IPv6 Internet, and
determine solutions or workarounds to those issues. This includes
The term "operational" needs to be defined. The above could
be interpreted as implying that sub-optimal solutions are
satisfactory, as long as they work in some fashion. I would
like to see the term "operational" defined in such a way that
the best solution for the problem space is considered; not
just a one-size-fits-all solution that may be sub-optimal.
(7) Identify open operational or security issues with the deployment
solutions documented in (5) and fully document those open
issues in Internet-Drafts or Informational RFCs. Work to find
workarounds or solutions to basic, IP-level deployment issues
that can be solved using widely-applicable transition mechanisms,
such as dual-stack, tunneling or translation.
If the satisfactory resolution of a deployment issue requires
the standardization of a new, widely-applicable transition
mechanism that does not properly fit into any other IETF WG or
area, the v6ops WG will standardize a transition mechanism
to meet that need.
I find the above wording biased, since "widely-applicable" seems to
be the only selection criteria mandated for the standardization of
new mechanisms. I would like to see the above changed to allow for
standardization of the best mechanism for a particular scenario;
not just a one-size-fits-all.
By way of analogy, four-door sedans are "widely-applicable"
vehicles. But:
- minivans are a better choice for large families
- pick-ups are a better choice for hauling large loads
- 4wd's are a better choice for off-road driving
- etc.
Summary - the wording in sections (1) and (7) seems to mandate
lowest-common-denominator solutions and ignore solutions that
provide a better fit.
Fred Templin
ftemplin@iprg.nokia.com