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Re: Layer 2 MAC-layer group management [Was: New draft on embeddingthe RP address in IPv6 multicast address]
- To: Bill Nickless <nickless@mcs.anl.gov>
- Subject: Re: Layer 2 MAC-layer group management [Was: New draft on embeddingthe RP address in IPv6 multicast address]
- From: Brian Haberman <bkhabs@nc.rr.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:22:05 -0400
- Cc: mboned@network-services.uoregon.edu, v6ops@ops.ietf.org
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Bill Nickless wrote:
At 02:48 PM 10/17/2002 -0400, Brian Haberman wrote:
Sounds to me like you just described a MAC-layer group management
protocol. Since the IETF generally stays at Layer 3 (Sub-IP
excluded), it is out of our control.
Exactly right. So why are the IETF working groups like MAGMA trying to
specify Layer 2 switch multicast behavior?
Slow down, Bill. MAGMA is not specifying how L-2 devices behave.
The snooping draft is guidance to switch vendors who want to do
IGMP/MLD snooping. It is meant as an Informational document.
Nothing more.
Perhaps you should petition the IEEE to develop this protocol or
write a draft on how a layer 3 devices should advertise their
interest in receiving packets on layer 2 addresses.
The IEEE 802.1p committee did develop a MAC-layer receiver interest
protocol. See the work on GARP/GMRP. A good introduction to that work
can be found in the second section of
http://www.ieee802.org/1/mirror/8021/tobagi/garp-gmrp-timers.pdf .
I will take a look at it. Have you (or Ken) pushed on your router
vendors to support this in conjunction with the switch vendors?
I did write a draft, which included a discussion of how layer 3 devices
should advertise their interest in receiving packets on layer 2
addresses. See the first part of section 22 (page 10) of
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mboned-iesg-gap-analysis-00.txt
Ah, another draft I have on my list to read, but haven't gotten
to yet. I will take a look at this also.
Brian