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Re: I-D ACTION:draft-palet-v6ops-auto-trans-00.txt



See below, in-line.

Regards,
Jordi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pekka Savola" <pekkas@netcore.fi>
To: "Bound, Jim" <jim.bound@hp.com>
Cc: "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>; <v6ops@ops.ietf.org>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:16 AM
Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-palet-v6ops-auto-trans-00.txt


> On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Bound, Jim wrote:
> > > A number of transition mechanism have been defined already: Teredo,
> > > TB/TS, TSP, STEP, ISATAP, 6to4, tunnels, etc. All of them work when
> > 
> > Your missing DSTM in this analysis why is that?
> 

Yes, Pekka is right, that's the point. We are assuming that the host is already dual stack, and we are looking for ensuring IPv6 connectivity, so we consider only scenarios where you have IPv6 native connectivity (but the performance is poor for whatever reason and we can improve it with a transition mechanism, for example to a nearer tunnel server) or where you have IPv4 convexity and want to get IPv6.

The document is focusing in the evaluation of those mechanism that we consider today have a better chance to provide better results. A follow up document will work on solutions, and possibly protocol description, and those documents could take care of more alternatives, even new transition mechanism that today don't exist, however we believe is difficult it happens (difficult to see mechanism that offer "more" that what we have now).

Anyway, we will improve the text in the next release to clarify this.

> I think the document is focused on obtaining _IPv6_ connectivity in 
> IPv4-only networks, not the other way around.
> 
> ...
> 
> FWIW, I personally agree with Brian's concern of too ambitious goals.  
> Too ambituous goals often result in nothing getting done, instead of
> what might have been realistic.  So, if it stays, it probably needs
> "health warnings" or th like :)
> 


As I already indicated replying to Brian, we will make sure to be more realistic and/or clear on this point in the next release.

> -- 
> Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
> Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
> Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings
> 
> 
> 


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