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Re: Feedback on proposed charter from the IESG
Folks,
(co-chair hat on)
Your input is needed. The WG needs to form an opinion the charter.
It seems that charter was considered too open-ended (and I personally
agree with it, I just can't think of ways to make it less so, without
severely restricting the work that could be pursued by the WG).
Do you have suggestions for, e.g.:
- what classes of documents are such that we should be working on
(with sufficient specifity so it doesn't seem open-ended),
- good criteria on how to make decisions on documents that will be
accepted and which will not, or
- anything which SHOULD NOT be in the charter?
The proposed charter was posted on the list on Dec 21st, but I'm also
attaching it here.
Please send your thoughts, preferably this week.
(hat off)
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, David Kessens wrote:
[...]
The charter is still a bit open ended. What is really missing is good
criteria on how to make decisions on documents that will be accepted
and which will not.
For example, the list of proposed milestones is rather extensive and
we were not entirely convinced that every single document on the list
really needs to be worked on in the v6ops working group.
As is not uncommon in the Operations Area, this working group will
have some topics in the charter that will be somewhat open ended.
However, that doesn't mean that we should take on any work that has
remotely something to do with the operational aspects of running an
ipv6 Internet network.
Questions that come to my mind that are important to ask are:
Is there really an audience that needs a particular document (eg. not
just a very specific audience but a broad group of users)? Is there
expertise in the working group to work on the topic (eg. more than
just a few people should have a good understanding) ? Did the people
that express willingness to work on a topic actually read the proposed
internet draft ? Are there more than a few people willing to
contribute, and an even larger group to review the document ?
I hope that this helps to guide the discussion to get a solid new
charter in place.
David Kessens
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Description of Working Group:
The global deployment of IPv6 is underway, creating an IPv4/IPv6
Internet consisting of IPv4-only, IPv6-only and IPv4/IPv6 networks and
nodes. This deployment must be properly handled to avoid the division
of the Internet into separate IPv4 and IPv6 networks while ensuring
addressing and connectivity for all IPv4 and IPv6 nodes.
The IPv6 Operations Working Group (v6ops) develops guidelines for the
operation of a shared IPv4/IPv6 Internet and provides guidance for
network operators on how to deploy IPv6 into existing IPv4-only
networks, as well as into new network installations.
The main focus of the v6ops WG is to look at the immediate
deployment issues; more advanced stages of deployment and transition
are a lower priority.
The goals of the v6ops working group are:
1. Solicit input from network operators and users to identify
operational issues with the IPv4/IPv6 Internet, and
determine solutions or workarounds to those issues. These issues
will be documented in Informational or BCP RFCs, or in
Internet-Drafts.
This work should primarily be conducted by those areas and WGs
which are responsible and best fit to analyze these problems, but
v6ops may also cooperate in focusing such work.
2. Publish Informational or BCP RFCs that identify potential security
risks in the operation of shared IPv4/IPv6 networks, and document
operational practices to eliminate or mitigate those risks.
This work will be done in cooperation with the Security area and
other relevant areas or working groups.
3. As a particular instance of (1) and (2), provide feedback to
the IPv6 WG regarding portions of the IPv6 specifications that
cause, or are likely to cause, operational or security concerns,
and work with the IPv6 WG to resolve those concerns. This feedback
will be published in Internet-Drafts or RFCs.
4. Publish Informational or BCP RFCs that identify and analyze solutions
for deploying IPv6 within common network environments, such as
ISP Networks (including Core, HFC/Cable, DSL & Dial-up networks),
Enterprise Networks, Unmanaged Networks (Home/Small Office), and
Cellular Networks.
These documents should serve as useful guides to network
operators and users on possible ways how to deploy IPv6 within their
existing IPv4 networks, as well as in new network installations.
These documents should not be normative guides for IPv6 deployment,
and the primary intent is not capture the needs for new solutions,
but rather describe which approaches work and which do not.
IPv6 operational and deployment issues with specific protocols or
technologies (such as Applications, Transport Protocols, Routing
Protocols, DNS or Sub-IP Protocols) are the primary responsibility of
the groups or areas responsible for those protocols or technologies.
However, the v6ops WG may provide input to those areas/groups, as
needed, and cooperate with those areas/groups in reviewing solutions
to IPv6 operational and deployment problems.
Specifying any protocols or transition mechanisms is out of scope of
the WG.
Goals and Milestones:
Nov 04 Adopt document describing how to use IPsec with draft-ietf-v6ops-mech-v2 as WG item
Nov 04 Adopt document describing issues with NAT-PT as WG item
Dec 04 Adopt IPv6 Security Overview as WG item
Dec 04 Adopt IPv6 deployment using VLANs as WG item
Jan 05 Adopt ISP IPv6 Deployment Scenarios in Broadband Access Networks as WG item
Jan 05 Adopt IPv6 Network Architecture Protection as WG item
Feb 05 Ensure draft-ietf-v6ops-v6onbydefault keeps going forward for RFC publication
Feb 05 Submit IPv6 deployment using VLANs to IESG for Info
Mar 05 Submit document on IPsec w/ draft-ietf-v6ops-mech-v2 to IESG for Info
Mar 05 Submit document describing issues with NAT-PT to IESG for Info
Apr 05 Submit Enterprise Deployment Analysis to IESG for Info
Apr 05 Submit IPv6 Network Architecture Protection to IESG for Info
May 05 Submit IPv6 Security Overview to IESG for Info
May 05 Submit ISP IPv6 Deployment Scenarios in Broadband Access Networks to IESG for Info
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