Re: [v6tc] Re: Tunneling and Transition Drafts

[Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com>]

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To: jordi.palet@consulintel.es
cc: "v6tc@ietf.org" <v6tc@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [v6tc] Re: Tunneling and Transition Drafts 
In-Reply-To: Message from jordi.palet@consulintel.es
   of "Wed, 06 Apr 2005 02:30:53 +0200." <BE78FA5D.F1CA3%jordi.palet@consulintel.es> 
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:54:40 -0400
From: Thomas Narten <narten@rotala.raleigh.ibm.com>

Note: v6ops bcc'ed, followups in v6tc please.

> First of all, I think is a very good question to know if the v6tc is really
> dead, or what, unless I've missed something, there was not any message about
> this. I was about to ask soon in v6tc list (copied now).

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure myself. And this is after a rather
lot of hallway conversation in Minneapolis.

Truth in advertising: I've always been a bit skeptical of this work,
and probably continue to be, with the main reason being that I do not
see a clear/easy/obvious solution here and I worried alot (while I
still wore an AD hat) about starting a WG that wouldn't be able to
actually come to closure and complete useful work. It is not enough to
want a solution -- a solution must also be achievable. (This comment
applies mostly the "tunnel endpoint discovery problem".)

I do detect that there are folk that want to form a WG and that there
are some that believe there is a problem here to be solved (that needs
solving), but so far (AFAIK) the problem hasn't been articulated
clearly and (still) strikes me as a bit of a moving target.

One (big!) example. There was lots of talk at the BOF and in the
presentation about the need for low latency, i.e., it was a
"requirement". And I hear "wireless" mentioned and "3G" at
approximately the same time. But, my understanding is that 3GPP has
already decided to go with ISATAP. So, they aren't a customer for this
work. But if that is the case, where is the real requirement for low
latency coming from?

Is my understanding correct in this regard?

Thomas

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