RE: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more meetings outsi de US ?)

["Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>]

For MANET Autoconfiguration, we believe that it will be
beneficial (if not strongly recommended) to co-locate a
DHCPv6 server on each MANET border router. Since the MANET
border routers are also the ones that provide links to other
networks, the DHCPv6 servers are available IFF the links to
other networks are available and so the fate-sharing balance
seems appropriate. This model can be extended also to ordinary
sites that are not particularly mobile nor ad-hoc, since they
are just simple cases of MANETs. Please see the following for
further details:

  http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-templin-autoconf-dhcp-08.txt

Fred
fred.l.templin@boeing.com  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Hain [mailto:alh-ietf@tndh.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 2:58 PM
> To: 'Durand, Alain'; 'Jari Arkko'
> Cc: marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca; v6ops@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: RE: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more 
> meetings outsi de US ?)
> 
> I did not say that DHCP should be deprecated. There are real-world
> situations like the ones that took down the IETF DHCP 
> service, that are
> clearly operational/implementation/deployment rather than 
> protocol issues.
> Just because some organizations run DHCP does not mean 
> everyone else MUST
> because the IETF elite refuse to allow an operationally different
> alternative to be standardized. 
> 
> Tony
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Durand, Alain [mailto:Alain_Durand@cable.comcast.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 1:26 PM
> > To: Jari Arkko; alh-ietf@tndh.net
> > Cc: marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca; v6ops@ops.ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have 
> more meetings
> > outsi de US ?)
> > 
> > I agree. Cable networks have proven that DHCP can be scaled
> > to tens of million of leases...
> > 
> > The fact that something went wrong at IETF is no proof
> > that the model is broken.
> > 
> >   - Alain.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org
> > > [mailto:owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jari Arkko
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 3:53 PM
> > > To: alh-ietf@tndh.net
> > > Cc: marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca; v6ops@ops.ietf.org
> > > Subject: RE: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more
> > > meetings outsi de US ?)
> > >
> > > I may be missing some context (I'm bandwidth challenged right
> > > now and unable to check archives). But its unclear to me
> > > where you jumped to the conclusion that DHCP problems in
> > > Chicago had something to do with a specific protocol and that
> > > this implies we need to deploy an alternate solution in IPv6.
> > > If anything, multiple solutions seem to increase the
> > > likelihood of interop and configuration problems.
> > >
> > > Jari
> > >
> > >
> > >
> 
> 
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