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Re: Fwd: I-D Action:draft-van-beijnum-modified-nat-pt-00.txt



I would be in favor of hearing a discussion of this and the other alternatives put forward recently on this list. I agree that there is a problem to be solved (stateless connectivity between a host using an IPv6 address and a legacy IPv4 host or enclave) but I'm not settled on a solution yet.

This may be out of place, but I offer it simply for information. I am aware of several commercial translation implementations that bear some investigation as well, one of which I had a hand in building at my previous employer (Datatek). I am not endorsing their product or any of the other products, but they are available (or soon to be) and may help with some deployment scenarios, and those who are interested may look them up: Datatek Applications (Transformer), Ambriel Technologies (AT-X series), and Silex Technology (SX-2600CV). Datatek is "essentially" SIIT with some twists, Ambriel admits to being NAT-PT, but I don't have any technical info on Silex. All are targeted at adapting the legacy IPv4 device to an IPv6-dominant network with IPv6 peers.

Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
This is the modified NAT-PT draft that I mentioned this weekend.

Chairs: I would like the opportunity to present this draft in Vancouver, if possible.

If desired I can talk about alternatives for / changes to NAT-PT in general rather than this specific proposal.

Iljitsch


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From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org
Date: 12 november 2007 14:50:02 GMT+01:00
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
Subject: I-D Action:draft-van-beijnum-modified-nat-pt-00.txt
Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

Title : Modified Network Address Translation - Protocol Translation
    Author(s)       : I. van Beijnum
    Filename        : draft-van-beijnum-modified-nat-pt-00.txt
    Pages           : 9
    Date            : 2007-11-12

A smooth transition from IPv4 to IPv6 requires that either all hosts
are upgraded to dual stack before the first hosts can become IPv6-
only, or that there be some mechanism for IPv6-only hosts to talk to
IPv4-only hosts.  Current levels of dual stack deployment suggest
that expecting the former within a reasonable timeframe isn't
realistic, based on current adoption of dual stack combined with the
latest projections for the IPv4 depletion that point to a date early
in the next decade.  And the IETF has recently deprecated the main
mechanism that allows the latter: NAT-PT.
This document proposes modifications to NAT-PT that address the
reasons why the mechanism was deprecated in order to allow future
deployment of the modified NAT-PT as an IPv4-to-IPv6 transition
mechanism, giving operators the option to run their networks largely
IPv6-only.

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-van-beijnum-modified-nat-pt-00.txt




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