The poor state of IPv6 apps (so far)

[Robert Moskowitz <rgm-ietf@htt-consult.com>]

Disclaimers:

   * I am newly dedicated to working with IPv6, and recently got my /48
     allocation to my home lab.
   * I am currently only working with Centos (v5.2) systems.
   * My 1st main goal is to have P2PSIP (and SIP) running over HIP over
     IPv6. And where IPv6 is not available to use Teredo.


There are probably more I should list up there, but it will do for 
starters. I am using the HIPL code in userspace, as the BEET IPsec patch 
is not yet in the Centos kernel (BEET is in, but it needs the patch to 
work right).

So I need IPv6 apps, and have been having a terrible time of it. I can 
list where I am so far, if there is interest (or help available!), but I 
do not have a single IPv6 client/server app running yet after two weeks 
of work.

Friday, I decided that IPv4 was just getting in my way to find working 
IPv6 apps (until I need to test in a Teredo environment), so I tried to 
disable IPv4. Looks like I cannot, even when I do not start the network 
service, the loopback device is available with both IPv4 and IPv6 
loopback addresses (even when I commented out all references that I can 
find for the IPv4 loopback address).

I find this unsettling. Kind of like an IPv4 forevermore position, with 
IPv6 kind of sometime.....

Just venting some steam, and now back to testing.