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Thoughts over the holidays - IESG procedures.



wrote the enclosed just before Christmas and today.

lots of things not covered.
look at the intro for thoughts about how to publish and so on.

feedback @ multiple levels wanted:

- publish something-like-this: good/bad/pointless?
- if good: material covered: subjects to add/delete?
- proposals for changes to better describe our current procedures?

next thing on my todo list: making the proposed MoU into an I-D.....

          Harald

Network Working Group                                      H. Alvestrand
Internet-Draft                                             Cisco Systems
Expires: June 1, 2003                                      December 2002


                            An IESG charter
                        draft-iesg-procedures-00

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Abstract

   This memo describes the current operating procedures of the Internet
   Engineering Steering Group (IESG), a management function of the
   Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF).

   This memo is not intended to become an RFC, but provides information
   to the Internet community, for which the internet-drafts mechanism is
   a convenient distribution veichle

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1. Introduction

   This document gives some details of IESG procedure.  It is intended
   as a dynamically changeable document, and is intended to give
   visibility to the current process, not to serve as a template for
   what the process "ought" to be.

1.1 Notational conventions











































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2. IESG communications

   The IESG is in constant session through its mailing list -
   iesg@ietf.org.  The IESG has a teleconference every second Thursday
   for 2 1/2 hours, which is the place where decisions get reviewed and
   consensus on IESG action is gauged.













































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3. IESG decisionmaking

   The IESG attempts to make all its decisions by consensus.

   The normal behaviour expected of an AD is that he/she searches for
   consensus, raises objections if he has them, listens to the arguments
   for and against her objections, and makes an informed decision about
   whether to go along with the consensus of the group, attempt to go
   further in discussing the problem, or recusing himself from the
   action because she has insoluble problems with the issue at hand.









































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4. IESG document review procedures

   The IESG review procedure is defined by the IESG.

   The procedure consists of:

   o  An initial review by the responsible AD, assisted by whatever
      reviewers the AD wants to bring to bear

   o  Once the responsible AD is satisfied that the document is worth
      sponsoring, a review by the entire IESG

   o  If the IESG has questions or comments, the responsible AD takes
      the token to resolve these with the authors or WG responsible
      before taking the (possibly revised) document back to the IESG for
      re-review.

   The procedure of IESG evaluation is different for standards-track
   documents and non-standards-track documents.

4.1 IESG review of standards-track and BCP

   For this class of document, each AD is requested to state an opinion.
   One AD for the area to which the document belongs (the "shepherding
   AD") MUST register a "yes" vote to the document in order to get it on
   the agenda.  At least 2/3 of the IESG must register either "Yes" or
   "No Objection" in order for the document to go out.

   If an AD has an objection to the document, this is discussed on the
   mailing list, and on a telechat.  If the IESG comes to consensus that
   the objection is worth sustaining, the shepherding AD is tasked with
   resolving the matter with the working group.  This may involve an
   explanation of the group's choices, clarification of text in the
   document, or a reevaluation of the choices made.

   The IESG tries to get a "token holder" AD for the objection; the
   chosen holder is not necessarily the one who raised the objection,
   but one who the IESG trusts to detect whether the problem is solved
   or not.

   When a document is updated, the shepherding AD will notify the token
   holding AD, and he will review the document; it can then either be
   approved instantly (if the shepherding AD and token-holding AD agree
   that there are no further problems), or it can be put on the agenda
   for a new telechat.

   The IESG tries to get all objections to a document in a single pass;
   however, this does not always succeed, and at times, resolving some



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   issues can cause other problems to surface.  When the working group
   takes so long to revise a document that ADs have been replaced before
   the document comes back for re-review, it is also hard to hold new
   ADs to a promise to go lightly on surfacing remaining issues.

4.2 IESG review of non-standards-track RFCs

   For this class of document, there is no requirement that all ADs give
   an opinion on the document.  The call is instead "does anyone have
   any objection to this going forward"; if there is none, the document
   is approved.








































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5. IESG working group management

5.1 Working group creation

   A working group proposal is always worked out between a responsible
   AD and the working group proposers.

   When the responsible AD thinks that a working group charter is a good
   idea, she may send an informal note to the IESG mailing list to get
   initial feedback; this is often called the "laugh test".

   When the AD thinks that the working group description is ready for
   wider review, the AD sends it to the IESG secretary in order to place
   it on a telechat agenda.

   If no IESG member objects to the charter, the IESG secretary then
   sends the proposed charter to the IETF-announce list and to the new-
   work list (which is a list maintained for cooperation between
   standards bodies).

   The charter is placed on the next telechat agenda 2 weeks later, and
   if no IESG member objects at that time, the charter of the new
   working group is approved.

5.2 Working group modification

   When a working group charter is changed, the procedure depends on the
   type of change.

   o  Changes to milestone dates are handled by the chairs notifying the
      IESG secretary and the AD, and the AD approving them.

   o  Changes to milestone text are handled by the chairs and the AD
      working out new text, the chairs sending the updates to the IESG
      secretary, and the AD approving them.

   o  Adding, removing and replacing chairs is handled by the AD, who
      notifies the IESG secretary, who updates the charter.

   o  Changes to the body of a charter requires IESG approval.

   When updating the body of a charter, the new charter is sent to the
   IESG secretary, who places it on the IESG telechat agenda; if no IESG
   member objects, the charter is approved.  The IESG has the option of
   sending the revised charter to ietf-announce and new-work for public
   review, but does not need to do so.

   When the changed charter is approved, the updated charter is always



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   sent to ietf-announce.

5.3 Working group termination

   A working group is terminated when the responsible AD decides that
   the working group needs to be terminated.  This may have multiple
   causes:

   o  The working group is finished with its work, and its RFCs are
      published (success)

   o  The AD concludes that letting the working group continue its work
      does not contribute to the IETF's forward progress (failure)

   A failed working group may be considered failed because the work is
   being done by other groups in the IETF, because the solutions being
   worked on are no longer considered relevant to the IETF, or because
   the group is, in the opinion of the AD, not making forward progress
   on achieving its goals.

   In both cases, the working group may have internet-drafts assigned to
   it that are not published as RFCs; these are then formally
   reclassified as individual submissions, and the next update of these
   documents is required to be named draft-<author>, not draft-ietf-
   <wgname>.

   The closing of a WG has no effect on the status of documents that
   have already been approved by the IESG for publication.























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6. IESG appeals procedure

   The formal appeals procedure is described in RFC 2026 section 6.5.

   An appeal to the IESG is initiated by email to the IETF Chair, copied
   to the IESG secretary.  If the appeal is not clear about whether or
   not it is an appeal, what is being appealed, or what the proposed
   remedies are, there may be a dialogue between the chair and the
   appealing person(s) to clarify the appeal.

   The IESG will then ask the responsible AD to give her opinion of the
   matter, as evidenced by the previous required step of discussing the
   matter with the responsible AD.

   The IESG will then discuss the matter in a telechat without the IAB
   liaison or the IAB chair being present (in order to keep the
   separation from the responsible body for a possible appeal), and will
   usually assign to some AD (not the responsible AD) the task of
   writing a response.

   When the proposed response text is ready, the IESG will discuss it by
   email and in a new telechat without the IAB.  When the IESG agrees
   upon the text, it is sent to the appealant and to the ietf-announce
   list, as well as being archived on the IESG's public web pages.


Author's Address

   Harald Tveit Alvestrand
   Cisco Systems
   Weidemanns vei 27
   Trondheim  7043
   NO

   EMail: harald@alvestrand.no
















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