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RE: Re: Permission to use MPLS MIBs (fwd)
This seems to have gotten into a loop.
Mr. Morris asked Scott and myself, and Scott answered:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Bradner [mailto:sob@harvard.edu]
> Sent: maandag 10 februari 2003 19:22
> To: bwijnen@lucent.com; sob@harvard.edu; Stephen.Morris@marconi.com
> Subject: Re: MPLS MIBs
>
>
> > Can you tell me what is the
> > permissions process regarding quoting from the MPLS MIBs?
>
> 1st - we (the IETF) can not give permission for you to use
> excerpts from
> IETF documents (we do not get that ability from the authors)
>
> 2nd - if you are talking about small excerpts that would be covered by
> the US fair-use rules
>
> but if you are talking about large excerpts you will need to contact
> the authors
>
> note that you can reproduce whole RFCs with no problem - the
> problem comes
> when you are not talking about the whole RFC
>
> also note that this does not extend to internet drafts
> (although authors
> can give you permisison to do that) and we do not recommend people
> republish IDs or extracts from IDs because they are not final
> documents
>
> Scott
So Mr. Morris did follow up and asked the authors, and now
the authors point back to the secretariat.
Scott, since Thomas seems to say it is OK here, I guess
the other authors should say OK too, and then Mr. Morris
I guess can use excerpts, right?
Thanks,
Bert
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacqueline Hargest [mailto:jhargest@ietf.org]
> Sent: vrijdag 14 februari 2003 1:22
> To: iesg@ietf.org
> Cc: Natalia Syracuse
> Subject: Fwd: Re: Permission to use MPLS MIBs (fwd)
>
>
> Is there anyone who might be familiar with permissions
> procedure (Bert?)
> and could please follow up with this gentleman? I believe
> his request is time
> sensitive.
>
> Many thanks,
> Jacqueline
>
>
> >Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:53:19 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
> >From: Natalia Syracuse <nsyracus@ietf.org>
> >To: jhargest@cnri.reston.va.us
> >Subject: Re: Permission to use MPLS MIBs (fwd)
> >X-X-Sender: nsyracus@odin.ietf.org
> >
> >
> >
> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:23:12 +0000 (GMT)
> >From: "[iso-8859-1] Stephen Morris" <stephenbjm@yahoo.com>
> >To: Natalia Syracuse <nsyracus@ietf.org>
> >Subject: Re: Permission to use MPLS MIBs
> >
> >
> >Here is a message again that we were talking about yesterday.
> >Thanks,
> >Natalia
> >
> >Hi Natalia
> >I haven't heard from Steve. Is there any one else who
> >can answer the query? I have a looming deadline so
> >time is precious. Hope you understand. Thanks in
> >advance.
> >Best wishes
> >
> >Stephen Morris
> >
> > --- Natalia Syracuse <nsyracus@ietf.org> wrote: >
> >Hello,
> > >
> > > I resent your message to Steve Coya.
> > > He will be back to you soon.
> > >
> > > Natalia Syracuse
> > >
> > > Stephen Morris wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Natalia
> > > > Thomas has suggested I ask you about permission to
> > > use
> > > > (in a book) excerpts from the three Internet Draft
> > > > MPLS MIB documents listed below. Perhaps you might
> > > > explain the permissions procedure? I look forward
> > > to
> > > > hearing from you.
> > > > Best wishes
> > > > Stephen Morris
> > > >
> > > > --- "Thomas D. Nadeau" <tnadeau@cisco.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Best to check with the IETF's secretat
> > > > > about
> > > > > reprint permissions. Send email to Natalia
> > > > > Syracuse <nsyracus@ietf.org>
> > > > >
> > > > > --Tom
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Hi Arun, Cheenu and Thomas
> > > > > >Can I get your permission to use some excerpts
> > > from
> > > > > >the following Internet Draft documents please?
> > > > > >draft-ietf-mpls-te-mib-09.txt
> > > > > >draft-ietf-mpls-lsr-mib-09.txt
> > > > > >draft-ietf-mpls-ftn-mib-05.txt
> > > > > >
> > > > > >This is for a book on the management of
> > > > > >multi-technology networks with examples based
> > > on
> > > > > ATM,
> > > > > >MPLS, Ethernet etc. The context for the use of
> > > the
> > > > > >above MIBs is:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >(1) The creation of LSPs
> > > > > >(2) Good practice in MIB design, e.g. using the
> > > > > >mplsTunnelIndexNext object rather than walking
> > > MIB
> > > > > >tables
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Best wishes
> > > > > >Stephen Morris
> > > >
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