Yes ~ that iesg-secretary should CC the co-chairs on the "WG Review" messages.Please put this on the agenda. The text below reflects the "grand plan" for the WG, i.e., transition to the engineering mode, which we've discussed before. Wrt milestones: AODV has indeed been submitted already and made it to a telechat, the authors are working on an updated version. BTW, did we agree to cc the co-chairs on such requests?