Re: Trigtran BOF

[Leslie Daigle <leslie@thinkingcat.com>]

[Re-sending to get IESG on the thread.  -- LLD]

Bernard Aboba wrote:
> I was somewhat disappointed in this BOF.
>
> I was hoping for a thoughtful approach that would involve a problem 
> description, a survey of existing media and an evaluation of potential 
> existing solutions (either published as an I-D or RFC proposed in the 
> research literature), as a prelude to a future design effort.
>
> Instead, it seemed like the BOF started from the conclusion that what 
> was needed was work on very specific potential solutions relating to 
> specific "triggers" such as "link up". In my mind at least, the problem 
> wasn't very well stated, and there wasn't much discussion of why that 
> problem was important to solve and the potential solutions and their 
> pros and cons. There was disagreement on whether the problem was a real 
> one that was important to solve.
>
> It worries me that this is becoming a trend within the transport area 
> (RDDP is another example) -- multiple BOFs and charters without basic 
> groundwork work items. This should raise questions both about process as 
> well as about how we evaluate whether proposed WGs have the resources 
> required to make rapid progress.
>
> For example, is the core TCP and media expertise available to complete 
> the proposed work? Is the expertise available to evaluate proposed 
> solutions? (e.g. experiments, simulations, etc.)? Have security 
> resources been identified to evaluate some of the (scary) security 
> implications? For example, if unauthenticated triggers can be sent, this 
> could be disruptive.
>
> My sense is that the critical resources are not in place for this work 
> to succeed, although the work itself may be worthwhile.
>
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