Re: Preparing to close APEX.

[Patrik Fältström <paf@cisco.com>]

Harald wrote:

> > My impression was that the APEX Presence document *was* intended to 
> > be compliant with the IMPP presence description, and that it probably 
> > still is, but that we could not guarantee that IMPP presence wouldn't 
> > change in such a way that APEX presence would have to be adapted to 
> > deal with it, since it was not out of the IMPP group yet.
Yes.

> > the Right solution, as opposed to the Possible solution, is of course 
> > to get the IMPP presence document out the door and into the RFC 
> > series, so that it's a stable point of reference, and APEX presence 
> > can go forward without any modification needed.
Exactly.

> > But with Dave Crocker actively sabotaging any attempts to reach 
> > consensus in IMPP, I don't hold great hope that the Right solution is 
> > possible, so I am willing to live with the solution as outlined.
Not only that, if I understand things correct from Yokohama and the 
fall of 2002, Dave is also editor of some documents, which means he is 
blocking it in multiple ways.

> > But Jon Peterson might be in a position to have a stronger 
> > opinion.....
Yes, SIMPLE should be treated the same way as APEX. Both are waiting 
for the IMPP document(s) and so will XMPP.

  paf