By my count, there are 27 I-Ds on Thursday's agenda. I don't think there's any way we're going to get through that many, let alone other agenda items. I suggest that we trim the list now, rather than by the order in which things happen to appear. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb (me) http://www.wilyhacker.com (2nd edition of "Firewalls" book)