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draft GROW charter



this week's agenda?

randy

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        Global Routing Operations Working Group BOF (grow)

        Chair(s):

          David Meyer   <dmm@sprint.net>
          Vijay Gill    <vijay@umbc.edu>


        Operations and Management Area Director(s):

          Randy Bush    <randy@psg.com>
          Bert Wijnen   <bwijnen@lucent.com>


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        Description of Working Group:
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        The Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) is fundamental to the
        operation of the Internet. In recent years, occurrences
        of BGP related operational issues have increased, and
        while overall understanding of the default-free routing
        system has improved, there is still a long and growing
        list of concerns. Among these are routing table growth
        rates, interaction of interior and exterior routing
        protocols, dynamic properties of the routing system, and
        the effects of routing policy on both the size and
        dynamic nature of the routing table. In addition, new and
        innovative uses of BGP, such as the use of BGP as a
        signaling protocol for some types of Virtual Private
        Networks, have created new and unexpected operational
        issues. 

        The purpose of the GROW is continue and expand on
        the original charter of the PTOMAINE WG. In particular,
        the purpose of the GROW is to consider and measure the
        problem of routing table growth, the effects of the
        interactions between interior and exterior routing
        protocols, and the effect of address allocation policies
        and practices on the global routing system. Finally,
        where appropriate, the GROW documents the operational
        aspects of measurement, policy, security, and VPN
        infrastructures.  

        GROW will also advise the IDR WG with respect whether it
        is addressing the relevant operational needs, and where
        appropriate, suggest course corrections. Finally,
        operational requirements developed in the GROW can 
        also be used by any new working group charged with
        standardizing a next generation inter-domain routing
        protocol. 



        GOALS:
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        (i).    To provide a clear definition of the problems
                facing Internet Routing Scaling today. This
                includes routing table size and route processing
                load (former PTOMAINE goal). 

        (ii).   To collate measurements of routing table scaling
                data and publish a reference list (former
                PTOMAINE goal).

        (iii).  To discuss and document methods of
                filtering/aggregating prefix information and to
                discuss and document what support from protocols
                or vendor knobs that might be helpful in doing
                this. In addition, to suggest policy guidelines
                to RIRs, LIRs and/or ISPs for allocations and
                aggregations,etc. that may be useful (former
                PTOMAINE goal).

        (iv).   To determine the long and short term effects of
                filtering/aggregating prefixes to reduce router
                resource consumption.  

        (v).    To develop methods of controlling policy
                information propagation in order to limit the
                need for propagation of prefix sub-aggregates. 

        (vi).   To determine the effects of using BGP as a
                signaling mechanism on the scalability of BGP
                (e.g.,. draft-ietf-ppvpn-rfc2547bis-03.txt)

        (vii).  To determine the effects of interaction of new
                IGP techniques (e.g., ISIS-TE) on the stability
                of BGP and in particular, what techniques are
                required to isolate the global infrastructure
                from the any of the dynamic properties of such TE
                systems.

        (viii). To determine operational security issues (joint
                with IDR and RPSEC)


        Some Relevant References:
        -------------------------
        http://www.routeviews.org
        http://bgp.potaroo.net
        http://www.cidr-report.org
        http://www.pch.net/routing/BGP_table_size.html 
        http://moat.nlanr.net/AS 
        http://www.apnic.net/stats/bgp 
        http://www.merit.edu/ipma
	http://www.caida.org/projects/routing/atoms


        Summary of Goals and Milestones:
        -------------------------------

        April 03        Submit BGP TTL Hack Internet Draft
        June  03        Submit Problem Statement Internet Draft
        June  03        Submit References Internet Draft
        July  03        Submit Effects of BGP Signaling Techniques Internet Draft

        Existing Internet Drafts:
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        - NOPEER community for BGP route scope control (at Randy's request, unless forwarded by IESG)
        - Controlling the redistribution of BGP routes (at Randy's request, unless forwarded by IESG)
        - The BGP TTL Hack (draft-gill-btsh-01.txt)
        - draft-turk-bgp-dos-04.txt (potential)
        - draft-hardie-bounded-longest-match-04.txt (potential)


        Request For Comments
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