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How large are IETF mailing lists?
- To: wgchairs@ietf.org
- Subject: How large are IETF mailing lists?
- From: Aaron Falk <falk@isi.edu>
- Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 10:48:17 -0800
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Hi-
There was a thread a few weeks ago where the topic of mailing list
sizes came up and it occurred to me that no one really has a good idea
of the typical size of IETF mailing lists. So, I asked the working
group chairs to send me the size of their lists. I also received some
list sizes from helpful folks who host mailing lists, not the least of
which was Brett at Fortec who submitted info for all the ietf.org
lists. Some of the information I received was for the same lists and
if they differed I selected the smaller list as some folks were able
to subtract inactive subscriptions.
Caveats to consider when looking at this data include:
- There are inactive/broken subscriptions included in some counts,
anecdotally this can be as much as 20% of the total.
- Some subscriptions are lists themselves, hiding an unknown number
of readers.
- Not all wgs are listed here. I only listed what I receieved.
- Some lists here are not working groups, some are expired working
groups. I've included the notes that I've received.
This is cleaned up data with no analysis. Draw your own conclusions.
I'm including the data twice, sorted by size and by listname.
Enjoy,
--aaron
ietf-announce 4000 (approx)
diffserv 2285
ietf 1950 (approx)
sip 1840
mobileip 1797
manet 1757
pkix 1263
sipping 1154
tewg 1047
tcpsat 1040 (dead wg)
beep 979
routing-discussion 950
megaco 879
idr 771
avt 766
sigtran 760
impp 760
policy 757
pwe3 734
ccamp 674
tsvwg 656
aaa 625
ippm 603
dhcwg 595
enum 587
namedroppers 586
seamoby 561
apex 559
nsis 531
l2tpext 525
nemo 518
isis-wg 518
midcom 516
ipsp 498
v6ops 497
pilc 495
rmt 492
asrg 489
pim 488
smime 483
ldapext 475
rmonmib 462
ssm 459
ipsra 427
ipp 413
tls 409
cfrg 400
nat 389
idn 381
bgmp 365
ediint 358
bmwg 358
imrg 357
diffserv-interest 357
mmusic 351
iporpr 346
multi6 333
forces 331
raven 323
openpgp 323
rpsec 314
rohc 307
cdn 307
calsched 297
ipcdn 295
ietf-geopriv 293
magma 280
ipfix 270
provreg 266
simple 265
rap 264
dccp 263
fax 255
rps 253
opes 252
nfsv4 245
ldup 241
ipoverib 240
ieprep 239
gsmp 232
disman 231
gsmp 230
vrrp 228
krb-wg 216
ipr-wg 212
iptel 204
speechsc 193
sacred 192
rserpool 188
rddp 181
ietf-822 179
agentx 178
sasl 176
ietf-mixer 176 (WG long dead, list still available but not active)
ifmib 167
ietf-madman 167 (WG dead, list still available but not active)
pwot.now.pwe3 163
malloc 163
eos 160
entmib 158
discuss 158
psamp 153
sming 146
imapext 146
ietf-charsets 141 (charsets review list, not a WG list)
ietf-censored 141
hubmib 140
kink 139
dcp 139
problem-statement 131
inch 130
nasreq 118
msgtrk 114
bridge-mib 110
adslmib 108
ietf-apps-tls 96
itu+ietf 94
trigtran 88
bridge 85
mipcharter 74
isis-update 69
lemonade 59
new-work 57
directory 54
ans-research 54
ipseckey 32
uri-review 25
w3c-policy 23
56crew 23
messaging 22
urn-nid 21
iesg 21
web 20
iesg-only 19
rtg-dir 17
iab 17
rip 14
stun 11
research-funding 10
sipping-emergency 8
rir-ietf 6
grip 4
media-feature-tags 3
intersecs 2
cats 1
is-is 0
booger 0
56crew 23
aaa 625
adslmib 108
agentx 178
ans-research 54
apex 559
asrg 489
avt 766
beep 979
bgmp 365
bmwg 358
booger 0
bridge 85
bridge-mib 110
calsched 297
cats 1
ccamp 674
cdn 307
cfrg 400
dccp 263
dcp 139
dhcwg 595
diffserv 2285
diffserv-interest 357
directory 54
discuss 158
disman 231
ediint 358
entmib 158
enum 587
eos 160
fax 255
forces 331
grip 4
gsmp 230
gsmp 232
hubmib 140
iab 17
idn 381
idr 771
ieprep 239
iesg 21
iesg-only 19
ietf 1950 (approx)
ietf-822 179
ietf-announce 4000 (approx)
ietf-apps-tls 96
ietf-censored 141
ietf-charsets 141 (charsets review list, not a WG list)
ietf-geopriv 293
ietf-madman 167 (WG dead, list still available but not active)
ietf-mixer 176 (WG long dead, list still available but not active)
ifmib 167
imapext 146
impp 760
imrg 357
inch 130
intersecs 2
ipcdn 295
ipfix 270
iporpr 346
ipoverib 240
ipp 413
ippm 603
ipr-wg 212
ipseckey 32
ipsp 498
ipsra 427
iptel 204
is-is 0
isis-update 69
isis-wg 518
itu+ietf 94
kink 139
krb-wg 216
l2tpext 525
ldapext 475
ldup 241
lemonade 59
magma 280
malloc 163
manet 1757
media-feature-tags 3
megaco 879
messaging 22
midcom 516
mipcharter 74
mmusic 351
mobileip 1797
msgtrk 114
multi6 333
namedroppers 586
nasreq 118
nat 389
nemo 518
new-work 57
nfsv4 245
nsis 531
openpgp 323
opes 252
pilc 495
pim 488
pkix 1263
policy 757
problem-statement 131
provreg 266
psamp 153
pwe3 734
pwot.now.pwe3 163
rap 264
raven 323
rddp 181
research-funding 10
rip 14
rir-ietf 6
rmonmib 462
rmt 492
rohc 307
routing-discussion 950
rps 253
rpsec 314
rserpool 188
rtg-dir 17
sacred 192
sasl 176
seamoby 561
sigtran 760
simple 265
sip 1840
sipping 1154
sipping-emergency 8
smime 483
sming 146
speechsc 193
ssm 459
stun 11
tcpsat 1040 (dead wg)
tewg 1047
tls 409
trigtran 88
tsvwg 656
uri-review 25
urn-nid 21
v6ops 497
vrrp 228
w3c-policy 23
web 20