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RE: Agenda, version zero



Good start... (based on quick browse... not deep thinking).
I am prepared to lead the AD-NITS (so no longer ID-nits?)

Thanks,
Bert 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [mailto:harald@alvestrand.no]
> Sent: woensdag 23 april 2003 22:56
> To: iesg@ietf.org
> Subject: Agenda, version zero
> 
> 
> Here's a proposed retreat agenda. Comments most welcome!
> 
> 
> Pretty version:
> 
> http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/iesg/retreat-2003/agenda.html
> 
> Ugly version (especially after justification):
> 
> IESG Retreat Agenda
> 
>    Version April 23, 22:30 CET
> 
>    April 29-30, 2003 - Wye River, near Washington DC
> 
>    Dinner available at 2000 on April 28 for those who are 
> arriving then.
> 
> Tuesday
> 
> +-------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------+
> | 0900-0945 | Welcome, agenda bashing                         
>  | Harald  |
> |           | IESG overview - the IESG charter                
>  |         |
> +-----------+-------------------------------------------------
> -+---------|
> | 0945-1015 | The Larger Picture - the context of the IETF    
>  | Leslie  |
> |           | universe                                        
>  |         |
> |-----------+-------------------------------------------------
> -+---------|
> | 1015-1030 | Break                                           
>  |         |
> |-----------+-------------------------------------------------
> -+---------|
> | 1030-1115 | Strategy in dealing with others: IEEE, Radius   
>  | Thomas? |
> |           | and 802.11x                                     
>  |         |
> |-----------+-------------------------------------------------
> -+---------|
> | 1115-1200 | Strategy in dealing with ourselves: The IM 
> story | Ted?    |
> |-----------+-------------------------------------------------
> -+---------|
> | 1200-1300 | Lunch                                           
>  |         |
> |-----------+-------------------------------------------------
> -+---------|
> |           | Document Review: What is the purpose of our     
>  |         |
> |           | review?                                         
>  |         |
> |           | Is the way we do it the Best Way?               
>  |         |
> |           | What is review for IDs via WG/individual/RFC    
>  |         |
> | 1300-1400 | Editor?                                         
>  | Harald  |
> |           | Possible results:                               
>  |         |
> |           | - Changes to procedures                         
>  |         |
> |           | - Efforts to get more people to review on our   
>  |         |
> |           | behalf                                          
>  |         |
> |-----------+-------------------------------------------------
> -+---------|
> | 1400-1415 | Break                                           
>  |         |
> |-----------+-------------------------------------------------
> -+---------|
> |           | The AD-Nits checklist: Classifying into         
>  |         |
> |           | "essential" and "nice to have" (if any)         
>  |         |
> |           | Determining that we'll stop anything on the     
>  |         |
> | 1415-1515 | "essential" list.                               
>  | Bert?   |
> |           | What does using "MUST" in an Informational      
>  |         |
> |           | document mean?                                  
>  |         |
> |           |                                                 
>  |         |
> |           | Result: Revised checklist                       
>  |         |
> |-----------+-------------------------------------------------
> -+---------|
> | 1515-1530 | Break                                           
>  |         |
> |-----------+-------------------------------------------------
> -+---------|
> |           | Technological support: What can the secretariat 
>  |         |
> | 1530-1630 | do for us?                                      
>  |         |
> |           | Presentation of plans - thoughts on priorities 
> / |         |
> |           | feedback                                        
>  |         |
> |-----------+-------------------------------------------------
> -+---------|
> | 1630-1800 | Some time to take a walk, a beer or a           
>  |         |
> |           | small-group discussion                          
>  |         |
> |-----------+-------------------------------------------------
> -+---------|
> | 1800      | Dinner                                          
>  |         |
> +-------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------+
> 
> 
> 
> Wednesday
> 
>  
> +-------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------+
>    |           | The Evolution of the IETF              | 
> |
>    |           | - What are the essential properties of | 
> |
>    |           | the IETF we need to preserve?          | 
> |
>    |           | - What do we want to see changed when  | 
> |
>    | 0900-1000 | "the process" finishes?                | 
> Harald, Leslie 
> |
>    |           | - What should we just go ahead and     | 
> |
>    |           | change off the bat?                    | 
> |
>    |           | - What do we need to change in our     | 
> |
>    |           | external relations?                    | 
> |
>  
> |-----------+----------------------------------------+--------
> -----------|
>    | 1000-1015 | Break                                  | 
> |
>  
> |-----------+----------------------------------------+--------
> -----------|
>    |           | Specific topic: Certificates and LDAP  | 
> |
>    |           | Result: General orientation, specific  | 
> |
>    |           | advice                                 | 
> |
>    | 1015-1115 | (we could do this split-group and have | Russ, Ted 
> |
>    |           | another topic such as GMPLS and        | 
> |
>    |           | addressing - but the set of interested | 
> |
>    |           | people overlaps!)                      | 
> |
>  
> |-----------+----------------------------------------+--------
> -----------|
>    | 1130-1230 | Lunch                                  | 
> |
>  
> |-----------+----------------------------------------+--------
> -----------|
>    | 1230-1500 | Telechat                               | 
> note 1 hour delay 
> |
>  
> |-----------+----------------------------------------+--------
> -----------|
>    |           | Wrapup session                         | 
> |
>    |           | - What, at a strategy level, does the  | 
> |
>    |           | IESG need to do?                       | 
> |
>    | 1500-1730 | - What specific problems do we need to | 
> |
>    |           | solve "now"?                           | 
> |
>    |           | - What do we need to do between now    | 
> |
>    |           | and Vienna?                            | 
> |
>  
> |-----------+----------------------------------------+--------
> -----------|
>    | 1800      | Dinner                                 | 
> |
>  
> +-------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------+
>