RE: Last Call: An IESG charter to Informational

["Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>]

Bob... People have been complaining that we IESG have not 
documented what we do and how we work. So that is why we 
came up with this charter. Pls DO note that it is
going for informational and that the abstract clearly states:

   This memo gives a charter for the Internet Engineering Steering Group
   (IESG), a management function of the Internet Engineering Task Force
   (IETF).
   It is meant to document the charter of the IESG as presently
   understood.

Should it be even more explicit and change the last sentence to say

   It is meant to document the charter of the IESG as presently
   understood by the IESG itself.

Is that what bothers you? 

Thanks,
Bert (just trying to understand).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Hinden [mailto:hinden@iprg.nokia.com]
> Sent: donderdag 5 juni 2003 22:27
> To: iesg@ietf.org
> Cc: hinden@iprg.nokia.com
> Subject: Re: Last Call: An IESG charter to Informational
> 
> 
> I object to this being published because I do not think it is 
> proper for 
> the IESG to approve it's own charter.
> 
> Bob
> 
> At 11:04 AM 6/5/2003, The IESG wrote:
> 
> >The IESG has received a request from the Internet Engineering
> >Steering Group Working Group to consider An IESG charter
> ><draft-iesg-charter-03.txt> as a Informational.
> >
> >The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> >final comments on this action.  Please send any comments to the
> >iesg@ietf.org or ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2003-7-3.
> >
> >Files can be obtained via
> >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iesg-charter-03.txt
>