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Draft Minutes of the June 26, 2003 IESG Teleconference
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the June 26, 2003 IESG Teleconference
Reported by: Dinara Suleymanova, IETF Secretariat
ATTENDEES
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Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
Rob Austein / IAB Liaison
Marcia Beaulieu / IETF Secretariat
Randy Bush / IIJ
Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
Bill Fenner / AT&T
Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
Erik Nordmark / Sun
Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
Alex Zinin / Alcatel
REGRETS
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Michelle Cotton / ICANN
Jacqueline Hargest / IETF Secretariat
Bert Wijnen / Lucent
MINUTES
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1. The minutes of the June 12, 2003 Teleconference were approved pending the removal
of Microsoft characters. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.
2. Review of Action Items
DONE:
o Allison and Thomas will email Secretariat note to send to RFC Editor about 3GPP
RFC Editor documents.
o Ned to write an IESG note for draft-tegen-smqp (Informational)
o Allison Mankin to submit a Revised Charter for the Next Steps in Signaling WG
(nsis) to the Secretariat. Secretariat to send a WG Review Announcement with copy
to new-work@ietf.org.
o Secretariat to include teleconference bridge/call-in details in teleconference
packages going forward.
DELETED:
o Steve to generate a summary of IESG views of the "problem"
OUTSTANDING:
IP o Allison to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs and send
decision to IESG.
IP o Erik to document process of how the IESG goes about asking architectural
questions of the IAB
IP o Thomas to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to Draft".
IP o Thomas to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB
IP o Steve to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option
IP o Randy and Ned to finish ID on Clarifying when Standards Track Documents
may Refer Normatively to Documents at a Lower Level
IP o Alex to send proposal and justification for interim document review.
IP o Steve to propose a different document classification than the current
info/proposed/etc.
IP o Harald Alvestrand to talk to RFC Editor about independent submissions.
IP o Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorates and IAB
on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed IESG
consensus regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN working group.
NEW:
o Thomas Narten to coordinate and send comments on minutes to the Secretariat. IESG
to review the format of the minutes and propose changes to improve readability and
communication to the outside world.
o Steve Bellovin to make proposal to discuss "problem" at the Sunday IESG meeting
in Vienna.
o Thomas Narten to writeup issue with references in draft-dasilva-l2tp-relaysvc-06.txt
and start discussion in IESG list.
2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item - 1 of 3
o draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt
The E.164 to URI DDDS Application (ENUM) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Mankin, Allison
The document was deferred to the next teleconference by
Harald Alvestrand. The document remains under discussion by Ted Hardie.
o draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-new-13.txt - 2 of 3
SDP: Session Description Protocol (Proposed Standard)
Token: Peterson, Jon
The document remains under discussion by Steve Bellovin,
Bill Fenner, Ned Freed, Ted Hardie and Russ Housley.
o draft-ietf-avt-mpeg4-simple-07.txt - 3 of 3
RTP Payload Format for Transport of MPEG-4 Elementary Streams (Proposed
Standard)
Token: Mankin, Allison
The document remains under discussion by Steve Bellovin.
2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.2 Returning Item - 1 of 3
o draft-ietf-avt-srtp-08.txt
The Secure Real-time Transport Protocol (Proposed Standard)
Token: Mankin, Allison
The document remains under discussion by Steve Bellovin and Russ Housley.
o draft-ietf-sipping-overlap-04.txt - 2 of 3
Mapping of of Integrated Services Digital Network (ISUP) Overlap Signalling to
the Session Initiation Protocol (Proposed Standard)
Token: Mankin, Allison
The document was approved by the IESG.
The Secretariat will send a Protocol Action Announcement.
o draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp.txt - 3 of 3
Link Management Protocol (LMP).
Token: Zinin, Alex
The document was added to the agenda by Alex Zinin and remains under
discussion by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, Thomas Narten and Russ Housley.
2. Protocol Actions
2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item - 1 of 1
o draft-legg-ldapext-component-matching-10.txt
LDAP & X.500 Component Matching Rules (Proposed Standard)
Token: Hardie, Ted
The document was deferred to the next teleconference by Harald Alvestrand
and Bill Fenner.
2.2.2 Returning Item - NONE
3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
o draft-ietf-speechsc-reqts-04.txt - 1 of 7
Requirements for Distributed Control of ASR, SI/SV and TTS Resources
(Informational)
Token: Peterson, Jon
The document remains under discussion by the IESG. A revised I-D is needed.
o draft-ietf-nsis-req-08.txt - 2 of 7
Requirements for Signaling Protocols (Informational)
Token: Mankin, Allison
Note: Extensive review with WG and editor. Document was revised to meet
deadline of 6/26 agenda.
The document remains under discussion by the IESG. A revised I-D is needed
o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-restart-applic-01.txt - 3 of 7
Applicability Statement for Restart Mechanisms for the Label
Distribution Protocol (Informational)
Token: Zinin, Alex
Note: Responsible: WG chairs
The document was approved by the IESG.
The Secretariat will send a Document Action Announcement.
o draft-ietf-manet-olsr-10.txt - 4 of 7
Optimized Link State Routing Protocol (Experimental)
Token: Zinin, Alex
The document remains under discussion by the IESG.
o draft-ietf-rmt-bb-fec-supp-compact-01.txt - 5 of 7
Compact Forward Error Correction (FEC) Schemes (Experimental)
Token: Mankin, Allison
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note regarding
IANA considerations to be prepared by Thomas Narten and Allison Mankin.
The Secretariat will send a Document Action Announcement that includes the
RFC Editor Note.
o draft-ietf-crisp-requirements-05.txt - 6 of 7
Cross Registry Internet Service Protocol (CRISP) Requirements (Informational)
Token: Freed, Ned
Note: Asked to be added to IESG agenda
The document remains under discussion by the IESG.
3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item -
o draft-ietf-v6ops-unman-scenarios-02.txt - 7 of 7
Unmanaged Networks IPv6 Transition Scenarios (Informational)
Token: Bush, Randy
Ted Hardie and Allison Mankin will send comments to the IESG on this document.
3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.2 Returning Item
o draft-ietf-multi6-multihoming-requirements-07.txt - 1 of 3
Goals for IPv6 Site-Multihoming Architectures (Informational)
Token: Bush, Randy
The document was approved by the IESG.
The Secretariat will send a Document Action Announcement.
o draft-ietf-nsis-qos-requirements-01.txt - 2 of 3
Requirements of a QoS Solution for Mobile IP (Informational)
Token: Mankin, Allison
Note: This document is a renaming of
draft-ietf-mobileip-qos-requirements-03.txt (expired). That document was
reviewed by IESG already and was given a go, except for lacking a Security
Consideration section, which it now has (2003-06-19).
The document was approved by the IESG.
The Secretariat will send a Document Action Announcement.
o draft-ietf-ccamp-tracereq-05.txt - 3 of 3
Tracing Requirements for Generic Tunnels (Informational)
Token: Wijnen, Bert
Note: Approved by IESG
The document was approved by the IESG pending confirmation from Alex Zinin
that Randy Bush approves. Upon notification from Alex Zinin, the Secretariat will
send a Document Action Announcement.
3. Document Actions
3.2 Indiviual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
o draft-lear-tftp-uri-06.txt - 1 of 1
URI Scheme for the TFTP Protocol (Informational)
Token: Hardie, Ted
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Ted Hardie.
The Secretariat will send a Document Action Announcement that includes
the RFC Editor Note.
3.2.2 Returning Item
NONE
3. Document Actions
3.3 Indiviual Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
o draft-paskin-doi-uri-03.txt - 1 of 4
The 'doi' URI Scheme for Digital Object Identifier (DOI) (Informational)
Token: Hardie, Ted
The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this document.
The Secretariat will send a Do Not Publish note to the RFC Editor.
o draft-foster-mgcp-bulkaudits-09.txt - 2 of 4
The Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Bulk Audit Package
(Informational)
Token: Peterson, Jon
The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
Jon Peterson will prepare a "no problem" message, and forward it to
the Secretariat to send to the RFC Editor.
o draft-eastlake-xxx-06.txt - 3 of 4
.sex Considered Dangerous (Informational)
Token: Alvestrand, Harald
The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor.
o draft-baker-slem-architecture-01.txt - 4 of 4
Cisco Support for Lawful Intercept In IP Networks (Informational)
Token: Alvestrand, Harald
The document was assigned to Steve Bellovin.
The Secretariat will update the ID-Tracker.
3.3.2 Returning Item
NONE
4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
NONE
4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
o Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks - 1 of 3
Token: Thomas
Thomas Narten and Alex Zinin will send a message to the IETF mailing list
regarding the formation of the two working groups: Layer 2 Virtual Private
Networks and Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks.
Both working groups were approved by the IESG. However, the Secretariat will
not send the WG Action Announcements until it receives the go-ahead
from Alex Zinin.
o Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks - 2 of 3
Token: Thomas
See decision under Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks
4.1.2 Proposed for Approval - 3 of 3
o Path Maximum Transmission Unit Discovery
Token: Allison
Allison Mankin will provide a revised charter to the IESG for review.
The Secretariat will send a WG Action Announcement when Allison Mankin
confirms that the IESG has approved the new charter.
4. Working Group Actions
4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
NONE
4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
NONE
5. Working Group News We Can Use
6. IAB News We Can Use
7. Management Issues
o Issues on L2TP Active Discovery Relay for PPPoE - added by Thomas Narten
(discussed)
o Issues on "problem" group - added by Harald Alvestrand
(discussed)