Re: draft-ietf-ips-fcip-slp-07.txt

[Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>]

--On søndag, juli 06, 2003 22:03:33 +0200 Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> > > "implemented?"  i think they need to say "used," and specify for what
> > > and when.
> > we have traditionally required implementation, on the principle that
> > "anything that runs over IP will end up on the Internet", but not use,
> > on  the theory that what people do in the privacy of their own back
> > rooms is  none of our business, and they MAY be right that there exist
> > times when  they are not needed.
> you don't get it.  these folk will not IMPLEMENT ipsec, their application
> will or will not USE it.
sigh....

the way I use the words:
the vendors will implement code that either contains or does not contain 
hooks for invoking IPSEC functionality.
I normally call that "implement".

the buyers of those products, given that the product has the knob, will 
either turn the knob to "ipsec on" or "ipsec off". I normally call that 
"use".

Cisco implements, Chase Manhattan uses.

If we start talking about "use" in the context of making product, I think 
we confuse the hell out of everyone, including ourselves. Not good for 
security.

               Harald