Revised Minutes from the June 26 IESG Teleconference

[IESG Secretary <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>]

Dear IESG Members:

Below are the revised minutes from the June 26, 2003 IESG teleconference.
Changes from the previous version include:

(1) The following boilerplate text for standards-track or BCP documents
under discussion by the IESG:

"The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by <insert name(s) of ADs>"

(2) The following footnote (at the end of the minutes) applied to all
documents under discussion by the IESG:

"Please see the ID Tracker
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on
documents that are under discussion by the IESG."

(3) The following additional information in statements concerning the
types of announcements that the Secretariat will send for various
documents:

"The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol (or
Document) Action Announcement."

or

"The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol (or Document)
Action announcement."

instead of

"The Secretariat will send a Protocol Action Announcement."

or

"The Secretariat will send a Document Action Announcement."

(4) Corrections to inconsistencies in the formatting of headings.

Information for each document includes the filename, draft name, and token
as well as any "Web notes" that accompanied the document in the Agenda.
It seems to me that the Web notes do not really belong in the minutes.
However, since they were in the previous version, I am reluctant to remove
them without your permission.

Please review the revised minutes at your earliest convenience.  I look
forward to your comments and suggestions.

Regards,

Barbara
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the June 26, 2003 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Dinara Suleymanova, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
Rob Austein / IAB Liaison
Marcia Beaulieu / IETF Secretariat
Randy Bush / IIJ
Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
Bill Fenner / AT&T
Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
Erik Nordmark / Sun
Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
Alex Zinin / Alcatel

REGRETS
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Michelle Cotton / ICANN
Jacqueline Hargest / IETF Secretariat
Bert Wijnen / Lucent

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the June 12, 2003 Teleconference were approved pending
the removal of Microsoft characters. The Secretariat will place the
minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Review of Action Items

DONE:
* Allison and Thomas will email Secretariat note to send to RFC Editor
about 3GPP RFC Editor documents.
* Ned to write an IESG note for draft-tegen-smqp (Informational).
* Allison Mankin to submit a Revised Charter for the Next Steps in
Signaling WG (nsis) to the Secretariat. Secretariat to send a WG Review
Announcement with copy to new-work@ietf.org.
* Secretariat to include teleconference bridge/call-in details in
teleconference packages going forward.

DELETED:
* Steve to generate a summary of IESG views of the "problem."

IN PROGRESS:
* Allison to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs and send
decision to IESG.
* Erik to document process of how the IESG goes about asking architectural
questions of the IAB.
* Thomas to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to
Draft."
* Thomas to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB.
* Steve to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
* Randy and Ned to finish ID on Clarifying when Standards Track Documents
may Refer Normatively to Documents at a Lower Level.
* Alex to send proposal and justification for interim document review.
* Steve to propose a different document classification than the current
info/proposed/etc.
* Harald Alvestrand to talk to RFC Editor about independent submissions.
* Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorates and IAB
on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed IESG consensus
regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN working group.

NEW:
* Thomas Narten to coordinate and send comments on minutes to the
Secretariat. IESG to review the format of the minutes and propose
changes to improve readability and communication to the outside world.
* Steve Bellovin to make proposal to discuss "problem" at the Sunday IESG
meeting in Vienna. Thomas Narten to writeup issue with references in
draft-dasilva-l2tp-relaysvc-06.txt and start discussion in IESG list.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item

o draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis.txt - 1 of 3
The E.164 to URI DDDS Application (ENUM) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Mankin, Allison

The document was deferred to the next teleconference by Harald Alvestrand.
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ted Hardie.*

o draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-new-13.txt - 2 of 3
SDP: Session Description Protocol (Proposed Standard)
Token: Peterson, Jon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin, Bill Fenner, Ned Freed, Ted Hardie and Russ
Housley.*

o draft-ietf-avt-mpeg4-simple-07.txt - 3 of 3
RTP Payload Format for Transport of MPEG-4 Elementary Streams (Proposed
Standard)
Token: Mankin, Allison

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin.*

2.1.2 Returning Item

o draft-ietf-avt-srtp-08.txt - 1 of 3
The Secure Real-time Transport Protocol (Proposed Standard)
Token: Mankin, Allison

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin and Russ Housley.*

o draft-ietf-sipping-overlap-04.txt - 2 of 3
Mapping of Integrated Services Digital Network (ISUP) Overlap Signalling
to the Session Initiation Protocol (Proposed Standard)
Token: Mankin, Allison

The document was approved by the IESG.
The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action
Announcement.

o draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp.txt - 3 of 3
Link Management Protocol (LMP) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Zinin, Alex

The document was added to the agenda by Alex Zinin and remains under
discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve
Bellovin, Ted Hardie, Thomas Narten and Russ Housley.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item

o draft-legg-ldapext-component-matching-10.txt - 1 of 1
LDAP & X.500 Component Matching Rules (Proposed Standard)
Token: Hardie, Ted

The document was deferred to the next teleconference by Harald Alvestrand
and Bill Fenner.

2.2.2 Returning Item

NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item

o draft-ietf-speechsc-reqts-04.txt - 1 of 7
Requirements for Distributed Control of ASR, SI/SV and TTS Resources
(Informational)
Token: Peterson, Jon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* A revised I-D is
needed.

o draft-ietf-nsis-req-08.txt - 2 of 7
Requirements for Signaling Protocols (Informational)
Token: Mankin, Allison
Note: Extensive review with WG and editor.  Document was revised to meet
deadline of 6/26 agenda.

The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* A revised I-D is
needed

o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-restart-applic-01.txt - 3 of 7
Applicability Statement for Restart Mechanisms for the Label
Distribution Protocol (Informational)
Token: Zinin, Alex
Note: Responsible: WG chairs

The document was approved by the IESG.
The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action
Announcement.

o draft-ietf-manet-olsr-10.txt - 4 of 7
Optimized Link State Routing Protocol (Experimental)
Token: Zinin, Alex

The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

o draft-ietf-rmt-bb-fec-supp-compact-01.txt - 5 of 7
Compact Forward Error Correction (FEC) Schemes (Experimental)
Token: Mankin, Allison

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note regarding
IANA considerations to be prepared by Thomas Narten and Allison Mankin.
The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action
Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

o draft-ietf-crisp-requirements-05.txt - 6 of 7
Cross Registry Internet Service Protocol (CRISP) Requirements
(Informational)
Token: Freed, Ned
Note: Asked to be added to IESG agenda

The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

o draft-ietf-v6ops-unman-scenarios-02.txt - 7 of 7
Unmanaged Networks IPv6 Transition Scenarios (Informational)
Token: Bush, Randy

Ted Hardie and Allison Mankin will send comments to the IESG on this
document.

3.1.2 Returning Item

o draft-ietf-multi6-multihoming-requirements-07.txt - 1 of 3
Goals for IPv6 Site-Multihoming Architectures (Informational)
Token: Bush, Randy

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

o draft-ietf-nsis-qos-requirements-01.txt - 2 of 3
Requirements of a QoS Solution for Mobile IP (Informational)
Token: Mankin, Allison
Note: This document is a renaming of
draft-ietf-mobileip-qos-requirements-03.txt (expired). That document
was reviewed by IESG already and was given a go, except for lacking a
Security Consideration section, which it now has (2003-06-19).

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Document Action Announcement.

o draft-ietf-ccamp-tracereq-05.txt - 3 of 3
Tracing Requirements for Generic Tunnels (Informational)
Token: Wijnen, Bert
Note: Approved by IESG

The document was approved by the IESG pending confirmation from Alex Zinin
that Randy Bush approves. Upon notification from Alex Zinin, the
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item

o draft-lear-tftp-uri-06.txt - 1 of 1
URI Scheme for the TFTP Protocol (Informational)
Token: Hardie, Ted

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

3.2.2 Returning Item

NONE

3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item

o draft-paskin-doi-uri-03.txt - 1 of 4
The 'doi' URI Scheme for Digital Object Identifier (DOI) (Informational)
Token: Hardie, Ted

The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this document.
The Secretariat will send a Do Not Publish note prepared by Ted Hardie to
the RFC Editor.

o draft-foster-mgcp-bulkaudits-09.txt - 2 of 4
The Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Bulk Audit Package
(Informational)
Token: Peterson, Jon

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
Jon Peterson will prepare a "no problem" message, and forward it to the
Secretariat to send to the RFC Editor.

o draft-eastlake-xxx-06.txt - 3 of 4
.sex Considered Dangerous (Informational)
Token: Alvestrand, Harald

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor.

o draft-baker-slem-architecture-01.txt - 4 of 4
Cisco Support for Lawful Intercept In IP Networks (Informational)
Token: Alvestrand, Harald

The document was assigned to Steve Bellovin.
The Secretariat will update the ID-Tracker.


3.3.2 Returning Item

NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

o Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks - 1 of 3
Token: Narten, Thomas

Thomas Narten and Alex Zinin will send a message to the IETF mailing list
regarding the formation of the two working groups: Layer 2 Virtual Private
Networks and  Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks.
Both working groups were approved by the IESG. However, the Secretariat
will not send the WG Action Announcements until it receives the go-ahead
from Alex Zinin.

o Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks - 2 of 3
Token: Narten, Thomas

See decision under Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks

o Path Maximum Transmission Unit Discovery - 3 of 3
Token: Mankin, Allison

Allison Mankin will provide a revised charter to the IESG for review.
The Secretariat will send a WG Action Announcement when Allison Mankin
confirms that the IESG has approved the new charter.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

NONE

5. Working Group News We Can Use

6. IAB News We Can Use

7. Management Issues

o Issues on L2TP Active Discovery Relay for PPPoE - added by Thomas Narten
(discussed)
o Issues on "problem" group - added by Harald Alvestrand
(discussed)
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