Re: notes from the Wed. IAB/IESG breakfast, fyi

[Geoff Huston <gih@telstra.net>]

thanks - most helpful

  Geoff

At 05:14 AM 17/07/2003 -0700, Sally Floyd wrote:
> I took some notes during the discussion Wed. morning of
> the IAB Open Architecture Meeting for Mark, who couldn't
> be at breakfast Wed. morning.  I am forwarding them just in
> case they are of any use to anyone else.  There are no
> accuracy guarantees...
>
> - Sally
>
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>
> IAB/IESG breakfast:
>
> Review of IAB Open Architecture Meeting:
>
> Technically, we think it was a successful event, even thought
>   it is not clear that anything new was learned.
>   Other opinions:
> Margaret: I thought the presentations were interesting.  She had
>   hoped for more conclusion about an action plan for moving forward.
>   If the IAB does nothing for followup, then it was a waste of time.
> Mark will write a report.
> There is also a plan for a moderated mailing list.
> Research groups?
> Margaret: I don't know if research groups are the right answer.
>   It would be good if we could write down the common knowledge
>   that some subset understands.  We could end up with a list
>   of research questions, of pressing questions that are not
>   research, etc.
> Geoff:  This is a well hashed area, but we should publish a pointer
>   to the literature.
> Eric:  Most of the discussion was about addressing, but not about
>   scoped addressing, and the scoped addressing hasn't been discussed
>   so much.
> Harald: I missed most of the meaning, but from what I heard back,
>   there is a larger issue of how machine identifiers are used.
>   A frustration from the application layer.  The net runs on
>   DNS names.
> Randy: Was it scoping in the micro sense instead of the macro sense?
> Geoff: Nope.
> Rob: Said last night, this is NSRG all over again. (Name Space Research 
> Group.)
> Leslie's metaphor:  There is an elephant here, not just tail and trunk
>   and isolated parts.
> Randy: Inside Multi6, there is a design team moving towards 8plus8.
>   Tony Li, Mike O'Dell.
> Allison: the relationship between scoping and 8plus8?
> Provider independence.
> Geoff:  If you unbind locators and identifiers, then this concern
>   about provider independence goes away.  The mobile world deals with this.
>   He sees a lot of value in the Multi6 design team.
> Randy: Two different scoping issues.
>   The RFC 1918 scoping problem (private internets), and nimrod.