Re: Internal WG Review: MIPv6 Signaling and Handoff Optimization (mipshop)

["James Kempf" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>]

I'm happy with the MIPSHOP charter.

            jak

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "gabriel montenegro" <gab@sun.com>
To: "Bernard Aboba" <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>
Cc: <harald@alvestrand.no>; <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>; <iesg@ietf.org>;
<iab@ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:23 AM
Subject: Re: Internal WG Review: MIPv6 Signaling and Handoff Optimization
(mipshop)


> Bernard Aboba wrote:
> >> Would this approach of:
> >>
> >> 1. Not delaying further testing of MIPSHOP protocols by proceeding
> >> with the current
> >>    charter that specifically targets EXPERIMENTAL protocols,
> >> 2. Clarifying in those EXPERIMENTAL protocols the currently known
> >>    shortcomings (including, of course, those related to security)
> >> 3. and, Including the corresponding security focus in the related
> >>    IRTF RG,
> >>
> >> be acceptable?
> >>
> >> [Notice, that if #3 produces good output, this could become the
> >> feedback needed in order to advance the EXPERIMENTAL protocols to PS,
> >> but that would require rechartering, so is not the charter we're
> >> reviewing right now.]
> >
> >
> > I would suggest trying to outline the security issues in the MIPSHOP
> > drafts and using this as input to the IRTF WG chartered in #3.
>
> This is what 2+3 above do, so we're in agreement.
> The only clarification is that we just checked with Bill Arbaugh
> asking him to merge and continue as co-chair of the resultant
> RG. He prefers to keep his RG focused on security aspects of
> handoffs and in close coordination with IEEE802. Accordingly,
> he is not keen on merging both groups, and both will (we hope)
> continue on.
>
> His would be the RG to deal with these security issues.
> Hence, I've left those out of our draft charter for
> our mobility RG proposal. BTW, Vern is in the loop in all of this.
>
> > I'd also note that there is apparently more than one IRTF WG proposal in
> > this area;  Bill Arbaugh is also proposing formation of an IRTF WG.
> > Given that IEEE 802 has recently started up two new study groups on
> > Handoff (Handoff ECSG and the new Fast Handoff Study Group), I'm
> > becoming concerned about the proliferation of Research and Study Group
> > efforts in this area.
>
> As alluded to above, Bill Arbaugh's RG would look into this on the
IRTF/IETF
> side of things (with close coordination with IEEE802).
>
> Getting back to the business at hand: approval of the MIPSHOP charter.
> Are we reaching an agreement then?
>
> -gabriel
>
>