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UPDATED DRAFT Minutes for the October 2, 2003 IESG Teleconference
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 2, 2003 IESG Teleconference
Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat
ATTENDEES
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Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
Rob Austein / IAB Liaison
Randy Bush / IIJ
Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
Bill Fenner / AT&T
Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
Thomas Narten / IBM
Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
Margaret Wasserman / Nokia
Bert Wijnen / Lucent
REGRETS
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Steve Bellovin / AT&T
Michelle Cotton / ICANN
Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
Alex Zinin / Alcatel
MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes
The minutes of the September 18, 2003 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.
1.2 Review of Action Items
DONE:
o Bill Fenner, Ted Hardie, and Thomas Narten to work out acceptable text
to resolve ABNF and SRV issues.
DELETED:
NONE
IN PROGRESS:
o Jon Peterson to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs
and send decision to IESG.
o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how
to get to Draft".
o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
with IAB.
o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
o Randy Bush and Ned Freed to finish ID on Clarifying when
Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents at
a Lower Level.
o Alex Zinin to send proposal and justification for interim
document review.
o Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorats
and IAB on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed
IESG consensus regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN
working group.
o Randy Bush and Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy
about a) meetings using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings,
and b) putting experiments on the network during the IETF meeting.
NEW:
o Ted Hardie to take responsibility for initiating a discussion on
applications' expectations on the behaviour of the DNS system.
o Harald Alvestrand to discuss with Barbara Fuller the process of
listing the scribes for IETF Meetings on WG charter Web pages.
2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
o draft-ietf-disman-conditionmib-10.txt - 1 of 9
Alarm Reporting Control MIB (Proposed Standard)
Token: Bert Wijnen
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.
o draft-ietf-rmonmib-apm-mib-11.txt - 2 of 9
Application Performance Measurement MIB (Proposed Standard)
Token: Bert Wijnen
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Russ Housley.*
o draft-ietf-ipsec-rfc2402bis-05.txt - 3 of 9
IP Authentication Header (Proposed Standard)
Token: Russ Housley
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin, Jon Peterson, and Bert Wijnen.*
o draft-ietf-ipsec-esn-addendum-02.txt - 4 of 9
Extended Sequence Number Addendum to IPsec DOI for ISAKMP (Proposed
Standard)
Token: Russ Housley
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Bert Wijnen.*
o draft-ietf-ipsec-esp-v3-06.txt - 5 of 9
IP Encapsulating Security Payload (ESP) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Russ Housley
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin, Jon Peterson, and Bert Wijnen.*
o draft-ietf-dnsext-keyrr-key-signing-flag-10.txt - 6 of 9
KEY RR Secure Entry Point Flag (Proposed Standard)
Token: Thomas Narten
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Russ Housley.*
o draft-ietf-ldup-lcup-06.txt - 7 of 9
LDAP Client Update Protocol (Proposed Standard)
Token: Ted Hardie
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action announcement.
o draft-ietf-nomcom-rfc2727bis-07.txt - 8 of 9
IAB and IESG Selection, Confirmation, and Recall Process: Operation of
the Nominating and Recall Committees (BCP)
Token: Harald Alvestrand
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Thomas Narten and Margaret Wasserman.*
o draft-ietf-dhc-suboptions-kdc-serveraddress-04.txt - 9 of 9
KDC Server Address Sub-option (Proposed Standard)
Token: Margaret Wasserman
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action announcement that includes
the RFC Editor Note.
2.1.2 Returning Item
o draft-ietf-ftpext-mlst-16.txt - 1 of 3
Extensions to FTP (Proposed Standard)
Token: Ted Hardie
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action announcement.
o draft-ietf-dhc-isnsoption-10.txt - 2 of 3
The IPv4 DHCP Options for the Internet Storage Name Service (Proposed
Standard)
Token: Thomas Narten
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin and Alex Zinin.*
o draft-ietf-avt-mpeg4-simple-08.txt - 3 of 3
RTP Payload Format for Transport of MPEG-4 Elementary Streams (Proposed
Standard)
Token: Allison Mankin
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action announcement.
2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
o draft-zeilenga-ldap-rfc2596-04.txt - 1 of 1
Language Tags and Ranges in LDAP (Proposed Standard)
Token: Ted Hardie
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ned Freed.*
2.2.2 Returning Item
NONE
3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
o draft-ietf-isis-igp-p2p-over-lan-03.txt - 1 of 2
Point-to-point operation over LAN in link-state routing protocols
(Informational)
Token: Bill Fenner
The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*
o draft-ietf-magma-msf-api-05.txt - 2 of 2
Socket Interface Extensions for Multicast Source Filters (Informational)
Token: Margaret Wasserman
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action announcement that includes
the RFC Editor Note.
3.1.2 Returning Item
NONE
3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
o draft-newton-ldap-whois-04.txt - 1 of 2
Domain Administrative Data in LDAP (Experimental)
Token: Ted Hardie
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.
o draft-gill-gtsh-01.txt - 2 of 2
The Generalized TTL Security Mechanism (GTSM) (Experimental)
Token: Alex Zinin
The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*
3.2.2 Returning Item
NONE
3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
NONE
3.3.2 Returning Item
o draft-touch-ipsec-vpn-06.txt - 1 of 1
Use of IPsec Transport Mode for Dynamic Routing (Informational)
Token: Russ Housley
The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*
3.3.3 To be assigned
o draft-irtf-nsrg-report-10.txt
What's In A Name:Thoughts from the NSRG (Informational): IRTF document.
The document was assigned to Russ Housley.
4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
o Long-Term Archive and Notary Services (ltans) - 1 of 1
Token: Russ Housley
The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to
new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference.
4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
o Centralized Conferencing (xcon) - 1 of 1
Token: Allison Mankin
The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.
4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
o Multiprotocol Label Switching (mpls) - 1 of 6
Token: Alex Zinin
The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised
charter. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter
announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org, to include
additional text to be provided by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat
will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG
teleconference.
o Mobility for IPv4 (mip4) - 2 of 6
Token: Thomas Narten
The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement
to include additional text to be provided by Thomas Narten.
o Audio/Video Transport (avt) - 3 of 6
Token: Allison Mankin
The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement
o DNS Extensions (dnsext) - 4 of 6
Token: Thomas Narten
The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending
a revised charter to be provided by Thomas Narten. The Secretariat
will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.
o Common Control and Measurement Plane (ccamp) - 5 of 6
Token: Alex Zinin
The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
copy to new-work@ietf.org, to include additional text to be provided
by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will place the working group on the
agenda for the next IESG teleconference.
o Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB (hubmib) - 6 of 6
Token: Bert Wijnen
The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference.
4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
NONE
5. Working Group News We Can Use
6. IAB News We Can Use
7. Management Issues
7.1 Appropriate Methods for getting Meeting Minutes from Chairs
(Harald Alvestrand)
This management issue was discussed.
7.2 Interoperability Testing at IETF Meetings (Harald Alvestrand)
This management issue was discussed.
7.3 Referral of draft-klensin-name-filters-03.txt to the IAB
(Ted Hardie)
This management issue was discussed.
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