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DRAFT Minutes of the October 16, 2003 IESG Teleconference
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 16, 2003 IESG Teleconference
Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat
ATTENDEES
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Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
Rob Austein / IAB Liaison
Steve Bellovin / AT&T
Randy Bush / IIJ
Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
Bill Fenner / AT&T
Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
Thomas Narten / IBM
Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
Margaret Wasserman / Nokia
Bert Wijnen / Lucent
Alex Zinin / Alcatel
REGRETS
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Michelle Cotton / ICANN
Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes
The minutes of the October 2, 2003 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.
1.2 Review of Action Items
DONE:
o Jon Peterson to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs
and send decision to IESG.
o Alex Zinin to send proposal and justification for interim
document review.
o Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorats
and IAB on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed
IESG consensus regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN
working group.
o Harald Alvestrand to discuss with Barbara Fuller the process of
listing the scribes for IETF Meetings on WG charter Web pages.
DELETED:
NONE
IN PROGRESS:
o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how
to get to Draft".
o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
with IAB.
o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
o Randy Bush and Ned Freed to finish ID on Clarifying when
Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents at
a Lower Level.
o Randy Bush and Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy
about a) meetings using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and
b) putting experiments on the network during the IETF meeting.
o Ted Hardie to take responsibility for initiating a discussion on
applications' expectations on the behaviour of the DNS system.
NEW:
o Secretariat to send the updated EDU Team charter to the IETF Announce
list for IETF review.
2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
o Two-document ballot: - 1 of 6
- draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-routing-08.txt
Routing Extensions in Support of Generalized Multi-Protocol Label
Switching (Proposed Standard)
- draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-gmpls-extensions-11.txt
OSPF Extensions in Support of Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching
(Proposed Standard)
Token: Bert Wijnen
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley.*
o draft-vida-mld-v2-07.txt - 2 of 6
Multicast Listener Discovery Version 2 (MLDv2) for IPv6 (Proposed
Standard)
Token: Margaret Wasserman
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Randy Bush.*
o draft-ietf-msec-mikey-07.txt - 3 of 6
MIKEY: Multimedia Internet KEYing (Proposed Standard)
Token: Russ Housley
The document was deferred to the next teleconference (10/30/03) by Jon
Peterson.
o draft-ietf-secsh-auth-kbdinteract-05.txt - 4 of 6
Generic Message Exchange Authentication For SSH (Proposed Standard)
Token: Russ Housley
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ned Freed, and Ted Hardie.*
o draft-ietf-mboned-msdp-deploy-03.txt - 5 of 6
Multicast Source Discovery Protocol (MSDP) Deployment Scenarios (BCP)
Token: Randy Bush
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Thomas Narten.*
o Two-document ballot: - 6 of 6
- draft-ietf-adslmib-hc-tc-06.txt
High Capacity Textual Conventions for MIB Modules Using Performance
History Based on 15 Minute Intervals (Proposed Standard)
- draft-ietf-adslmib-vdsl-12.txt
Definitions of Managed Objects for Very High Speed Digital Subscriber
Lines (VDSL) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Bert Wijnen
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Margaret Wasserman.*
2.1.2 Returning Item
o draft-ietf-pkix-pi-07.txt - 1 of 1
Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Permanent Identifier (Proposed
Standard)
Token: Russ Housley
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Harald Alvestrand, Randy Bush, Ted Hardie, and Jon
Peterson.*
2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
o draft-blumenthal-aes-usm-07.txt - 1 of 3
The AES Cipher Algorithm in the SNMP's User-based Security Model
(Proposed Standard)
Token: Steve Bellovin
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley.*
o draft-rajeshkumar-mmusic-gpmd-03.txt - 2 of 3
SDP attribute for qualifying Media Formats with Generic Parameters
(Proposed Standard)
Token: Jon Peterson
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Randy Bush, Ned Freed and Ted Hardie.*
o draft-ymbk-6to4-arpa-delegation-00.txt - 3 of 3
Delegation of 2.0.0.2.ip6.arpa (BCP)
Token: Russ Housley
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Bert Wijnen.*
2.2.2 Returning Item
NONE
3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
o draft-ietf-ipsec-dpd-03.txt - 1 of 2
A Traffic-Based Method of Detecting Dead IKE Peers (Informational)
Token: Russ Housley
The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*
o draft-ietf-ipsec-nat-reqts-05.txt - 2 of 2
IPsec-NAT Compatibility Requirements (Informational)
Token: Russ Housley
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Russ Housley. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.
3.1.2 Returning Item
o draft-ietf-ipo-framework-05.txt - 1 of 2
IP over Optical Networks: A Framework (Informational)
Token: Alex Zinin
The document was removed from the agenda by Alex Zinin.
o draft-ietf-dhc-unused-optioncodes-07.txt
Unused DHCP Option Codes (Informational)
Token: Margaret Wasserman
The document was removed from the agenda by Margaret Wasserman. The
Secretariat will place the document on the agenda for the next IESG
teleconference (10/30/03).
3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
NONE
3.2.2 Returning Item
o draft-gill-gtsh-04.txt - 1 of 1
The Generalized TTL Security Mechanism (GTSM) (Experimental)
Token: Alex Zinin
The document was removed from the agenda by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat
will place the document on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference
(10/30/03).
3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
o draft-bless-diffserv-pdb-le-01.txt - 1 of 3
A Lower Effort Per-Domain Behavior for Differentiated Services
(Informational)
Token: Jon Peterson
The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor.
o draft-bless-diffserv-multicast-07.txt - 2 of 3
IP Multicast in Differentiated Services Networks (Informational)
Token: Bill Fenner
The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a "no problem" message that includes an RFC Editor
note to be prepared by Bill Fenner.
o draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp-02.txt - 3 of 3
A Multicast Extension to MAPOS NSP (Node Switch Protocol) (Informational)
Token: Thomas Narten
The IESG recommends that this document not be published as an
Informational RFC. The Secretariat will send a "do not publish" message
to the RFC Editor that includes an explanation of the decision to be
prepared by Thomas Narten.
3.3.2 Returning Item
NONE
3.3.3 To Be Assigned
o draft-aboulmagd-trtcm-inprofile-01.txt - 1 of 1
The document was assigned to Jon Peterson.
4. Working Group Action
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
o Credential and Provisioning (enroll) - 1 of 2
Token: Russ Houlsey
The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to
new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (10/30/03).
o IP over DVB (ipdvb) - 2 of 2
Token: Margaret Wasserman
The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to
new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (10/30/03).
4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
o Long-Term Archive and Notary Services (ltans) - 1 of 3
Token: Russ Housley
The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.
o MIPv6 Signaling and Handoff Optimization (mipshop) - 2 of 3
Token: Thomas Narten
The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.
o Internet and Management Support for Storage (imss) - 3 of 3
Token: Margaret Wasserman
The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.
4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
NONE
4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
o Multiprotocol Label Switching (mpls) - 1 of 3
Token: Alex Zinin
The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement, to include
additional text to be provided by Alex Zinin.
o Common Control and Measurement Plane (ccamp) - 2 of 3
Token: Alex Zinin
The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement, to include
additional text to be provided by Alex Zinin.
o Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB (hubmib) - 3 of 3
Token: Bert Wijnen
The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.
5. Working Group News We Can Use
6. IAB News We Can Use
7. Management Issues
7.1 EDU Team updated charter (Harald Alvestrand)
This management issue was discussed.
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