RE: a proposal to be subitted to teh ITU-T TSAG

[Margaret.Wasserman@nokia.com]

Well, originally I thought I just must have missed some history
that lead up to this, but...

> 	. the proposal itself, for which I have the same
> 	  concerns as Harald has expressed earlier (and
> 	  I don't believe are resolved by Scott's responses)

I share those concerns and don't think they have been satisfactorily
addressed, either.

> 	. the fact that the ITU TSB liaison from the IETF is
> 	  creatign process for the IESG with an unspecified
> 	  timeout for comment, as opposed (say) to developing
> 	  it with the IESG and working it with the ITU.

I think that this goes beyond creating process for the IESG...

It appears, to me that this may be part of a plan to move some
work (today megaco, tomorrow ??) from the IETF to the ITU (or vice
versa?), and I don't think that we can/should agree to do that 
without discussing the idea with the affected parts of the community, 
etc.

I am quite unclear on several parts of this proposal.  To summarize
very quickly:  Who decides what work we do in common?  Who decides
who is on the single document committees?  How does the IETF community
get visibility/input into these decisions?  When a "single document"
is produced, which bodies have veto and/or approval authority -- does
it remain independent (ITU decides for ITU, we decide for IETF), or 
do both groups have to approve before the document is published, or
what?.

> Am I seriously alone in these concerns?  

No.  Although you are probably more informed in your concerns
than I am.

> If so, I don't need
> another battle of wills on my plate, and am happy to walk away
> and let others live with (what I perceive to be) the consequences.
> If not, I need some backup here.

How is that best done?  Should I respond directly to Scott with my
concerns (even though they are less informed and overlapping version
of yours and Harald's)?  Or can I just cheer from the peanut
gallery?  :-)

Margaret
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