Re: a proposal to be subitted to teh ITU-T TSAG

["James Kempf" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>]

Looks good. I think we might say something like "the preferred scope of the
cooperative process" under 4, to indicate what is desirable from our
standpoint.

            jak

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Huston" <gih@telstra.net>
To: "Leslie Daigle" <leslie@thinkingcat.com>; "Scott Bradner"
<sob@harvard.edu>
Cc: <iab@ietf.org>; <iesg@ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: a proposal to be subitted to teh ITU-T TSAG


> edits on edits based on what I just heard from Scott
>
> I added a termination point to bound it, and attempted to
> rephrase it to clarify those bits that were not obvious to me
>
>
> (N.B.:  This is not a final proposal from the IAB; this is Geoff's edit
suggestions piled on top of Leslie's edit suggestions to Scott, IAB and
IESG).
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>
>   Geoff
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>
> PROPOSAL
>
> 1. The adoption of a single set of detailed procedures are premature at
>    this point in time. Trial cases shall be used to gain some practical
>    experience.
>
>
> 2. The TSAG Cooperation and Coordination Group, in conjunction with the
>    ITU-T SG chairmen at TSAG shall identify candidate topics. The
>    selection of one or more of these topics shall be undertaken by the
>    IETF.
>
> 3. The topic shall be studied by both organizations using a cooperative
>    process. The intended outcome of the study is the approval by each
>    organization of a standard published in a coordinated fashion.
>
> 4. The scope of the cooperative process within this proposal is that the
>    work to produce a specification is done in one of the two organizations
>    with cooperation and direct involvement of individuals from the other
>    organization. The other organization shall produce and adopt a skeletal
>    specification with a normative reference to the main specification
>    document.
>
> 5. Other cooperative mechanisms that may be trialed under this proposal,
>    as an adjunct to the process described above include:
>
>      - referral, where the primary organization with respect to study of a
>        topic sends a draft of the study document to the other body with a
>        request for the other body to progress a specified part of the
>        study,
>
>      - the use of joint working group meetings, and
>
>      - the use of liaison representatives to participate in the working
>        group study activity of the other organization.
>
>
> 6. IETF and ITU-T management shall create a Document Coordination
>    Discussion Committee (DCDC) for the purpose of oversight of the
>    coordination of work undertaken within the scope of this proposal. The
>    Committee shall consist of no more than a half-dozen people, and
>    include  representatives from the responsible IETF WG, from the IESG,
>    the responsible ITU-T SG, liaisons, TSAG and TSB.  The role of this
>    Coordinating Committee would be to discuss coordination procedural
>    issues as they come up within the scope of this coordinated activity,
>    not to address technical issues.
>
> 7. Members of the DCDC would report any identified issues to their
>    organizations, for resolution in the appropriate venues.
>
> 8. Final approval of any documents remains the purview of the primary
>    organization that is hosting the specification development work (IETF
>    or ITU).
>
> 9. The lifetime of these arrangements is defined as being until the
>    completion of publication of documents on topics selected as part of
>    item 2. Either organization may terminate these arrangements by
>    submitting notice to the other organization. There is no binding
>    commitment by either party to extend these arrangements beyond this
>    completion time.
>
> It is expected that procedural issues will arise e.g., related to
> coordinating and synchronizing the two organizations discussion
> procedures, change control expectations, copyright and publication
> matters.  The DCDC will address these issues on a regular basis as well as
> on an as-needed basis, seeking guidance from their appropriate management
> or policy bodies and legal advisors of the two organizations as necessary.
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