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DRAFT Minutes for the October 30, 2003 IESG Teleconference
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 30, 2003 IESG Teleconference
Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat
ATTENDEES
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Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
Rob Austein / IAB Liaison
Steve Bellovin / AT&T
Randy Bush / IIJ
Michelle Cotton / ICANN
Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
Bill Fenner / AT&T
Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
Thomas Narten / IBM
Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
Margaret Wasserman / Nokia
Bert Wijnen / Lucent
Alex Zinin / Alcatel
REGRETS
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NONE
MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes
The minutes of the October 16, 2003 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.
1.2 Review of Action Items
DONE:
o Randy Bush and Thomas Narten to finish ID on Clarifying when
Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents at
a Lower Level.
o Secretariat to send the updated EDU Team charter to the IETF
Announce list for IETF review.
DELETED:
NONE
IN PROGRESS:
o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how
to get to Draft".
o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
with IAB.
o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
o Randy Bush and Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy
about a) meetings using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings,
and b) putting experiments on the network during the IETF meeting.
o Ted Hardie to take responsibility for initiating a discussion on
applications' expectations on the behaviour of the DNS system.
NEW:
o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue.
o Harald Alvestrand to write a proposed update to the IESG Teleconference
timeline. The update will move submission of items for the preliminary
agenda to the Thursday before the teleconference, and will suggest that
the ADs inform the IESG when they wish to submit items later than the
deadline.
o Secretariat to send statement to RFC Editor regarding adding RFC 974
to STD 10.
o Secretariat to send a note to the IESG mailing list informing the ADs
that the preliminary agenda for the November 20, 2003 IESG Teleconference
will be sent on Thursday, November 13, 2003 instead of Friday, November
14.
o Barbara Fuller and Harald Alvestrand to discuss the deadline for
submission of WG charters for Internal Review during their Tuesday,
November 4 conference call.
o Harald Alvestrand to send a note to the IETF Announcement
list indicating that there was a clerical error in the EDU
Team charter announcement, and that the community has two
weeks to review the charter.
2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
o draft-ietf-vrrp-spec-v2-09.txt - 1 of 4
Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (Draft Standard)
Token: Alex Zinin
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Harald Alvestrand.*
o Three-document ballot: - 2 of 4
- draft-ietf-ipr-submission-rights-08.txt
IETF Rights in Contributions (BCP)
- draft-ietf-ipr-technology-rights-12.txt
Intellectual Property Rights in IETF Technology (BCP)
- draft-ietf-ipr-wg-guidelines-05.txt
Guidelines for Working Groups on Intellectual Property
Issues (Informational)
Token: Harald Alvestrand
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor
Note to be prepared by Harald Alvestrand. The Secretariat
will send a working group submission Protocol Action announcement
that includes the RFC Editor Note.
o draft-ietf-imapext-condstore-04.txt - 3 of 4
IMAP Extension for Conditional STORE operation (Proposed Standard)
Token: Ned Freed
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.*
o draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lci-option-02.txt - 4 of 4
Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Option forLocation Configuration
Information for GEOPRIV (Proposed Standard)
Token: Ted Hardie
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and by Thomas Narten on
behalf of IANA.*
2.1.2 Returning Item
o draft-ietf-sigtran-v5ua-04.txt - 1 of 7
V5.2-User Adaption Layer (V5UA) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Jon Peterson
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action announcement.
o Four-document ballot: - 2 of 7
- draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-11.txt
Message Tracking Query Protocol (Proposed Standard)
- draft-ietf-msgtrk-model-07.txt
Message Tracking Model and Requirements (Informational)
- draft-ietf-msgtrk-smtpext-05.txt
SMTP Service Extension for Message Tracking (Proposed Standard)
- draft-ietf-msgtrk-trkstat-05.txt
An Extensible Message Format for Message Tracking Responses
(Proposed Standard)
Token: Ned Freed
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.*
o draft-ietf-webdav-acl-12.txt - 3 of 7
WebDAV Access Control Protocol (Proposed Standard)
Token: Ted Hardie
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action announcement.
o draft-ietf-msec-mikey-07.txt - 4 of 7
MIKEY: Multimedia Internet KEYing (Proposed Standard)
Token: Russ Housley
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
resolve points raised by Ted Hardie and Jon Peterson.*
o draft-dasilva-l2tp-relaysvc-07.txt - 5 of 7
L2TP Active Discovery Relay for PPPoE (Proposed Standard)
Token: Thomas Narten
The document's intended status was changed from Proposed Standard
to Informational RFC. The document remains under discussion by
the IESG.*
o draft-ietf-ipv6-flow-label-08.txt - 6 of 7
IPv6 Flow Label Specification (Proposed Standard)
Token: Thomas Narten
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
resolve points raised by Alex Zinin*
o draft-ietf-dnsext-keyrr-key-signing-flag-11.txt - 7 of 7
KEY RR Secure Entry Point Flag (Proposed Standard)
Token: Thomas Narten
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
resolve points raised by Thomas Narten on behalf of IANA.*
2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
NONE
2.2.2 Returning Item
NONE
3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
o draft-ietf-sigtran-signalling-over-sctp-applic-09.txt - 1 of 5
Telephony Signalling Transport over SCTP applicability statement
(Informational)
Token: Jon Peterson
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor
Note to be prepared by Jon Peterson. The Secretariat will send
a working group submission Document Action announcement that
includes the RFC Editor Note.
o draft-ietf-tsvwg-dsack-use-02.txt - 2 of 5
Using TCP DSACKs and SCTP Duplicate TSNs to Detect Spurious
Retransmissions (Experimental)
Token: Jon Peterson
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
send a working group submission Document Action announcement.
o draft-ietf-rpsec-routing-threats-03.txt - 3 of 5
Generic Threats to Routing Protocols (Informational)
Token: Alex Zinin
The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*
o draft-ietf-geopriv-threat-analysis-01.txt - 4 of 5
Threat Analysis of the geopriv Protocol (Informational)
Token: Ted Hardie
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
send a working group submission Document Action announcement.
o draft-ietf-geopriv-reqs-04.txt - 5 of 5
Geopriv requirements (Informational)
Token: Ted Hardie
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor
Note to be prepared by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat will send
a working group submission Document Action announcement that
includes the RFC Editor Note.
3.1.2 Returning Item
o draft-ietf-manet-tbrpf-11.txt - 1 of 3
Topology Dissemination Based on Reverse-Path Forwarding
(TBRPF) (Experimental)
Token: Alex Zinin
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
send a working group submission Document Action announcement.
o draft-ietf-dhc-unused-optioncodes-07.txt - 2 of 3
Unused DHCP Option Codes (Informational)
Token: Margaret Wasserman
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
send a working group submission Document Action announcement.
o draft-ietf-crisp-requirements-06.txt - 3 of 3
Cross Registry Internet Service Protocol (CRISP) Requirements
(Informational)
Token: Ted Hardie
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
send a working group submission Document Action announcement.
3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
NONE
3.2.2 Returning Item
o draft-gill-gtsh-04.txt - 1 of 1
The Generalized TTL Security Mechanism (GTSM) (Experimental)
Token: Alex Zinin
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
send an individual submission Document Action announcement.
3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
o draft-dfncis-netnews-admin-sys-06.txt - 1 of 2
Netnews Administration System (NAS) (Experimental)
Token: Ned Freed
The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*
o draft-carroll-dynmobileip-cdma-01.txt - 2 of 2
Dynamic Mobile IP Key Update for cdma2000(R) Networks (Informational)
Token: Thomas Narten
The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference
by Steve Bellovin (11/20/03).
3.3.2 Returning Item
NONE
3.3.3 To be assigned
o draft-jseng-idn-admin-05.txt
Internationalized Domain Names Registration and Administration
Guideline for Chinese, Japanese and Korean (Informational)
The document was assigned to Harald Alvestrand.
4. Working Group Actions
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
o Access Link Intermediaries Assisting Services - 1 of 1
Token: Jon Peterson
The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to
new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (11/20/03).
4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
o Credential and Provisioning - 1 of 2
Token: Russ Housley
The IESG decided not to approve the charter for the working
group at this time. The Secretariat will place the working
group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (11/20/03).
o IP over DVB - 2 of 2
Token: Margaret Wasserman
The IESG decided not to approve the charter for the working
group at this time. The Secretariat will place the working
group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (11/20/03).
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
NONE
4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
NONE
5. Working Group News We Can Use
6. IAB News We Can Use
7. Management Issues
7.1 Deadlines for New and Returning Items on the Telechat
Timetable and Minimum Review Time for Internal Review of New
and Rechartered Working Groups. (Harald Alvestrand)
This management issue was discussed.
7.2 Adding RFC 974 to STD 10 (Harald Alvestrand)
This management issue was discussed.
7.3 draft-brand-drip (Thomas Narten)
This management issue was not discussed.
7.4 EDU Team Charter
This management issue was discussed. The Secretariat will place
the management issue on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference
(11/20/03).
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