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RE: Two week Last Call on LMP (Sections 12.3.3 and 12.3.4)



Ramesh,
  Please see inline.

Thanks,
Jonathan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: S Ramesh [mailto:rashanmu@npd.hcltech.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:15 PM
> To: George Young
> Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Two week Last Call on LMP (Sections 12.3.3 and 12.3.4)
> 
> 
> Hi Young,
> 
> 1. Yeah events 1.evCCup and 2.evCCDown has to be added in the 
> Data Link FSM's in  the down state also. Agreed.
I would actually propose that we remove the degraded state altogether from
the data link fsms.  This is already captured at the TE link level.
Comments?

> 
> 2. Transtition 10:evLnkDealloc can be possible know even in the degraded
> state. Yeah a control channel is needed, but this event can also be a
> external event know, from the user or a network management event. If this
> is possible then this event is required in this state. Kindly 
> clarify me.
agreed.

> 
> 3. Also event 14.evdcDown can also possible in Test/Pasv Test state. Since
> to send a Test message or to receive a Test message we need a data
channel.
> If you see both the FSM's ( Data link ) event 3 & 4 will pose the next
> state to Test & Pasv Test state from Up/Free state. So the event
> 14.evdcDown is also possible on both the states and hence the 
> next state in both the case will be down.
ok.

> 
> Thanks,
> Ramesh
> 
> George Young wrote:
> 
> > Looking at the Data Link FSMs in Sections 12.3.3 and 12.3.4 of
> > draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp-02.txt:
> >
> > 1) It appears that in the Down state, the control channel 
> can be either
> > up or
> > down. That being the case, there should be transitions for events 1
> > :evCCUp:
> > and 2 :evCCDown: from Down to Down.
> >
> > 2) Transition 10:evLnkDealloc: from Deg to Down would appear to be
> > impossible,
> > as there is no control channel available, and the control channel is
> > required to coordinate taking the channel down at both 
> ends. I believe
> > this
> > transition should be removed.
> >
> > With these changes, the FSMs would look like:
> >
> > 12.3.3. Active Data Link FSM Description
> >
> >    Figure 5 illustrates operation of the LMP active data 
> link FSM in a
> >    form of FSM state transition diagram.
> >
> >                             1,2
> >                          +------+
> >                          |      |
> >                          |   +------+
> >                          +-->|      |<-------+
> >                   +--------->| Down |        |
> >                   |     +----|      |<-----+ |
> >                   |     |    +------+      | |
> >                   |     |5b   3|  ^        | |
> >                   |     |      |  |2,7     | |
> >                   |     |      v  |        | |
> >                   |     |    +------+      | |
> >                   |     |    |      |<-+   | |
> >                   |     |    | Test |  |11 | |
> >                   |     |    |      |--+   | |
> >                   |     |    +------+      | |
> >                   |     |     5a| 3^       | |
> >                   |     |       |  |       | |
> >                   |     |       v  |       | |
> >                   |2,12 |   +---------+    | |
> >                   |     +-->|         |14  | |
> >                   |         | Up/Free |----+ |
> >                   +---------|         |      |
> >                             +---------+      |
> >                                9| ^          |
> >                                 | |          |
> >                                 v |10        |
> >             +-----+  2      +---------+      |
> >             |     |<--------|         |13    |
> >             | Deg |         |Up/Alloc |------+
> >             |     |-------->|         |
> >             +-----+  1      +---------+
> >
> >                     Figure 5: Active LMP Data Link FSM
> >
> > 12.3.4. Passive Data Link FSM Description
> >
> >    Figure 6 illustrates operation of the LMP passive data 
> link FSM in a
> >    form of FSM state transition diagram.
> >
> >                             1,2
> >                          +------+
> >                          |      |
> >                          |   +------+
> >                          +-->|      |<------+
> >                  +---------->| Down |       |
> >                  |     +-----|      |<----+ |
> >                  |     |     +------+     | |
> >                  |     |5b    4|  ^       | |
> >                  |     |       |  |2,8    | |
> >                  |     |       v  |       | |
> >                  |     |    +----------+  | |
> >                  |     |    | PasvTest |  | |
> >                  |     |    +----------+  | |
> >                  |     |       6|  4^     | |
> >                  |     |        |   |     | |
> >                  |     |        v   |     | |
> >                  |2,12 |    +---------+   | |
> >                  |     +--->| Up/Free |14 | |
> >                  |          |         |---+ |
> >                  +----------|         |     |
> >                             +---------+     |
> >                                 9| ^        |
> >                                  | |        |
> >                                  v |10      |
> >             +-----+         +---------+     |
> >             |     |  2      |         |13   |
> >             | Deg |<--------|Up/Alloc |-----+
> >             |     |-------->|         |
> >             +-----+  1      +---------+
> >
> >                     Figure 6: Passive LMP Data Link FSM
> >
> > Regards,
> > George R. Young
> > edgeflow Inc.
> > 329 March Rd., Kanata, ON, Canada, K2K 2E1
> > phone: +1 613-270-9279 Ext 287
> > fax: +1 613-270-9268
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Kireeti Kompella [mailto:kireeti@juniper.net]
> > >Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:00 PM
> > >To: ccamp@ops.ietf.org
> > >Subject: Two week Last Call on LMP
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi All,
> > >
> > >This is to announce a two week Last Call on the LMP draft:
> > >draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp-02.txt.  This Last Call ends COB Wed Nov 28.
> > >
> > >Please send questions, comments and requests for clarifications
> > >to the CCAMP list.
> > >
> > >Kireeti.
> > >
> > >
> 
>