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[idn] I don't want 8-bit failures in 2011
- To: idn@ops.ietf.org
- Subject: [idn] I don't want 8-bit failures in 2011
- From: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
- Date: 3 Feb 2001 09:00:05 -0000
- Delivery-date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 01:02:16 -0800
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Dave Crocker writes:
> It is approximately the 10th anniversary of the beginning of the effort to
> make Internet mail support "international character-sets".
It has been nearly twenty years since people realized how stupid it was
to mangle 8-bit mail. But there is still no IETF specification saying
that it's bad for Sendmail to destroy bytes 128 through 159 in the
header of a message.
In fact, in the world according to Crocker, it's perfectly acceptable
for a new MTA to prohibit 8-bit text in the _body_ of a message!
Of course, such an MTA will fail to interoperate with hundreds of
thousands of machines running qmail, Exim, Sendmail with the 8 flag,
etc. But Crocker says he's right and they're all wrong.
What I find most amazing is that Crocker keeps claiming success. His
own MTA (MMDF) has withered and practically died, along with all its
commercial spinoffs; his rules are widely disobeyed by popular MTAs, as
demanded by the users and system administrators; and he still doesn't
get the message. He is out of touch with reality.
Back to 8-bit headers: We wouldn't be faced with Sendmail's 8-bit bugs
today if the IETF had required 8-bit-clean software ten years ago. But
the IESG followed Crocker's approach. Now he wants us to continue down
the same path, extending this disaster for another ten years. And _he_
says that _I_ am not learning the lessons of history!
---Dan