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RE: SNMP improvements


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de] 
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 04:03:16PM -0600, Eduardo Cardona wrote:
> > 
> > Is there any work or paper to fuel SNMP to a more efficient 
> pooling of
> > big tables (hundreds of rows) , like a new PDU type 
> 'GetBulkTableRows' ?
> > Should we wait for SMIv3, or an overall substitute of SNMP?
> The SNMP community had two working groups (SMIng and EOS) to fix some 
> of the known problems and to evolve the SNMP technology. Both working 
> groups failed to deliver and got shut down. So I think it is very 
> unlikely that work on SNMP happens within the IETF in the near future,
> except some maintenance stuff. 

I agree with this analysis.
> In other words, if people are serious to continue an 
> evolutionary path, 
> they have to get their act together outside of the IETF. The other 
> alternative is to try a revolutionary approach (and I guess this is 
> why you see so many SNMP folks in the netconf WG.)

The reason SMING and EOS were shut down is lack of volunteer effort -
nobody was willing to do the work. If you are willing to commit to doing
the work, then you can probably get this handled as an IETF activity.
But you will need to demonstrate a real commitment to doing the work,
such as by writing a fleshed-out proposal, bringing it to the attention
of the area directors, agreeing to yield change control to the IETF, and
agreeing to edit the document further. You may also be asked to lead a
BOF to get a WG started to do the work.

The political environment in the IETF NM area has been pretty
discouraging to people interested in SNMP. It has largely come down to
if you are interested in SNMP your opinions are not welcome. That is one
reason why you see so many SNMP people in the netconf WG.

David Harrington            
co-chair, IETF SNMPv3 WG (now concluded)

> /js
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