RE: Terminology [Re: Some Comments on ID/Loc Separation Proposals]

["marcelo bagnulo" <mbagnulo@ing.uc3m.es>]

Hi Kurtis,

My problem with this is that i fail to see differences between some of the
terms that are being defined...
For instance stack, endpoint perhaps virtual host...

I mean, is there a difference between this two, if so, do we need them both
for the multi6 discussion? or we can just pick one?

SO i agree we should define as much terms a we feel we need, but we
shouldn't define more that we need, at least we should be able to precisely
describe the difference between the defined terms

IMHO we should just pick one of the above for now and see if it is enough.
By now, i just don't care which one, stack, endpoint...

Regards, marcelo

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: owner-multi6@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-multi6@ops.ietf.org]En
> nombre de Kurt Erik Lindqvist
> Enviado el: domingo, 07 de diciembre de 2003 22:57
> Para: Brian E Carpenter
> CC: Dave Crocker; multi6@ops.ietf.org
> Asunto: Re: Terminology [Re: Some Comments on ID/Loc Separation
> Proposals]
>
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> On lördag, dec 6, 2003, at 17:26 Europe/Stockholm, Brian E Carpenter
> wrote:
>
> >>    Endpoint
> >>
> >>            refers to "the fundamental entity of and end-end
> >>            communication" [EID]. It is an end-system that participates
> >>            in an association. Endpoints are distinguished from
> >>            intermediate, infrastructure nodes and from hosts.
> >
> > Yes. But this is too generic to be really very useful... and trying to
> > get more precision always ends in a rat hole.
> >
>
> couldn't we split this into a several definitions. Like
>
> 	Host  		Describes a physical instance connected to
> the internet for
> the purpose of a certain task, such as workstation, web-server etc.
> 				A host can have multiple
> idenntifiers and locators
>
> 	Virtual host	Several logical implementations of "Host"
> running on one
> or more physical instances.
>
> 	Stack 		(see NSRG....)
>
> 	Interface		The connection point for a host or
> virtual host to the
> Internet. This COULD be through a Stack..xxxxxx
>
> 	Endpoint		refers to "the fundamental entity
> of and end-end
> communication" . It is an end-system that participates in an
> association. The associations can be made between one or
> 		more hosts
> or virtual hosts.
>
> 	Identifier	SHOULD provide a unique identity to be used
> for creating
> associations between Endpoints.
>
> 	Association	The exchange or one-way communication
> between applications
> at layer 4 or higher between XXXX
> 		.
> 		.
> 		.
> 		.
>
> etc. Idea is to try and create a "onion" of definitions. Just go to the
> right layer. The above is to vague tough...
>
> - - kurtis -
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